steven36 Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 Users of the extremely popular YouTube-dl YouTube media downloader have flooded GitHub with new repositories containing the tool's source code after GitHub took down the project's repositories on Friday. YouTube-dl is a command-line program that can be used to download multimedia content from YouTube and several other sites; before being removed, it used GitHub to host source code and compiled executables. The utility is also used by journalists for various reporting tasks including downloading press releases, videos, and audio transcriptions. On October 23, 2020, GitHub took down YouTube-dl's repositories due to a DMCA (Digital Millennium Copyright Act) infringement notice filed by Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), an organization that represents the recording industry in the U.S. Before being removed, YouTube-dl's repo was in the top 40 most starred GitHub repositories with more than 72,000 stars, between Node.js and Kubernetes. RIAA meet the Streisand effect When trying to visit the original YouTube-dl GitHub repo or any of the other more than a dozen forks that were removed, you will see a message stating that the "Repository unavailable due to DMCA takedown." "We have disabled public access to the repository. The notice has been publicly posted," the DMCA takedown notice also reads. While almost everyone was expecting blowback from YouTube-dl's angered users due to the Streisand effect, the number of new repos that showed up on the version control platform has surpassed most people's expectations. By targeting the project, the RIAA inadvertently exposed the project to a huge amount of new people given that YouTube-dl users and fans took to social media platforms and shared the story with tens of millions of other people. As shown when doing a quick search for YouTube-dl, GitHub now hosts hundreds of new repositories containing the source code of the YouTube downloader or related to it (when using no search filters, thousands of such repos show up). GitHub repo now also hosting YouTube-dl's source code Besides the huge number of new YouTube-dl repos that popped up since October 23, a copy of YouTube-dl's source code was also added to an official GitHub repository used for hosting received DMCA takedown notices. The user who committed the source code used a bug allowing anyone to attach commits to repos they don't control. According to security engineer Lance R. Vick, this is a known issue previously reported to GitHub that the company's security team chose to ignore. The problem with YouTube-dl's takedown is that it sets a dangerous precedent when it comes to removing other repositories of software that isn't violating copyright. Ricardo Garcia, the original creator of YouTube-dl and a former project maintainer (between 2006 and 2011), now part of the ytdl-org group that managed the GitHub repo, told BleepingComputer that he didn't receive any legal threats prior to the takedown. "I don't have a general statement on the current situation other than a personal opinion that it is indeed unfortunate that the repository is currently blocked," Garcia said. "Other people have also expressed this idea much more eloquently than I ever could. See for example the following article by the Freedom of the Press Foundation: https://freedom.press/news/riaa-github-youtube-dl-journalist-tool/." Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanderthunder Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 This would be a whack-a-mole situation between the RIAA and the multiple authors of youtube-dl repo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 I switched over to using youtube-dlc they took it down and he just removed the infringing code and made a new repo with it. Hes done done 2 updates since this happen. I get my youtube-dlc updates for Tartube from Python . Only XDM i get youtube-dlc from github and since it's browser based it dont need updates as much api changes that need to be fixed in regex dont effect it very often. I was looking at bug reports for things that was broke for along time in youtube-dl that youtube-dlc inherated still works fine in my browser using it in XDM . youtube-dl was almost dead anyway there repo was full of reports of broken sites they never fixed that why blacjack made the fork of it. Its most likely dead for real now. Making repos with no fixes does no one any good you can still get the last update of dl youtube-dl from there homepage even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 If angry users are serious about anything, they need to protest to Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), an organization that represents the recording industry in the U.S. Github only follows the rules. they receive a DMCA notice, they take it down. just like Google does with YouTube videos. so angry users = dumb users. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jogs Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 This is wonderful. It shows that common people by coming together can take on viscous money hungry enterprises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted October 27, 2020 Share Posted October 27, 2020 1 minute ago, Jogs said: This is wonderful. It shows that common people by coming together can take on viscous money hungry enterprises. which enterprise? they are confused people. the enterprise that is the main culprit is Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), an organization that represents the recording industry in the U.S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 27, 2020 Author Share Posted October 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Sylence said: which enterprise? they are confused people. the enterprise that is the main culprit is Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), an organization that represents the recording industry in the U.S. Microsoft belongs to the RIAA so basically taking it out on GitHub or complaining about M$ actions is complaining to a member of the RIAA Asking Microsoft to resign from the RIAA over youtube-dl takedown demand https://sfconservancy.org/blog/2020/oct/26/microsoft-github-riaa-youtube-dl/ Link: riaa.com/members/microsoft-corp/ Link with info about them them paying the Music Industry off out of Court when they made Zune they gave them a cut of every copy they sold back in 2006 so they been in good with them at lest that far back. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20061108/235014.shtml But the fact is there nothing you can do to help YouTube-DL until the maintainers of it decide a course of action if they take none its gone, only forks will remain, but maintainers of other opensource projects can leave the Microsoft owned site for a better host and save there project before they get banned without notice for some BS excuse that abuses DMCA out of protest. Just like many left when Microsoft bought it out of protest. The Law really dont mean jack in the virtual realm if the RIAA abuses DMCA like they did here for just a take down and dont take the accused to court . Without a judge deciding if YouTube-DL is illegal or not there free to keep making it. The RIAA job is to make sure laws in the music industry get enforced by using channels such as the courts like they done with other programs like Napster . They have no power outside of the courts to enforce any plenty on software. Only they can issue them a cease and desist order that if they dont stop they will take them to court or they can just take them to court. It's the same with other iffy software and other Anti Piracy groups they can make threats and get some to quit but if they dont sue them and it's not deemed Illegal that dont stop someone else from picking it up. That just like when they sued Limewire , only Limewire was made illegal but the Gnutella network was not others like Wireshare , Shareaza and others open sourced it but they dont use GitHub they use Sourceforge instead. They don't always win ether that's like when they sued Adblock Plus in Germany it was deemed legal .Also downloading things for personal use is fair use in some places. And Big tech's Toss is not really legally binding outside the USA they just make people in the EU opt in so they want be sued under EU law. Microsoft want to post PR about how they a open platform well here is there chance to earn opensource developers trust or they can lose what little they have it's there choice . Every action causes a reaction. Employees of Microsoft will never speak up because labor laws in the USA wont protect them. In cases were they have they ended up losing there job to shut them up . They will just make up some reason to let them go. It's a known fact that troublemakers are the 1st jobs to go in the USA Work Force unless they have a Union to protect them. So they have no choice but to be fake and act like everything is great or get laid-off or fired. Freedom of speech don't really apply in private industry if there against it. So that why some in goverment want to take away there protections to be protected from what people say or do on there platforms because they don't give everyone equal rights to free speech there biased against groups who dont fit there agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jogs Posted October 28, 2020 Share Posted October 28, 2020 13 hours ago, Sylence said: which enterprise? they are confused people. the enterprise that is the main culprit is Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), an organization that represents the recording industry in the U.S. I am talking about the Music Industry only. GitHub didn't take it down on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 On 10/27/2020 at 1:42 PM, steven36 said: It's a known fact that troublemakers are the 1st jobs to go in the USA Work Force unless they have a Union to protect them. That statement on its face is not true. Unions don't protect troublemakers as I found out from personal experience when I was younger. Unions are why all our manufacturing jobs moved overseas. They couldn't even protect their members jobs who didn't cause trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernStar Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 4 hours ago, straycat19 said: That statement on its face is not true. Unions don't protect troublemakers as I found out from personal experience when I was younger. Unions are why all our manufacturing jobs moved overseas. They couldn't even protect their members jobs who didn't cause trouble. Corruption in government, corrupt president, corrupt private sector and the unions destroyed manufacturing.? When the banks nearly collapsed the world economy. who went the jail?...........who was allowed to keep his personal fortune after collapsing his bank? Why does government bail out the banks, car manufacturing and the list goes on, when did we start rewarding business for their failures?, ah yes it was the unions!! How many unionists have gone to jail?, ask the working poor who destroyed manufacturing? The Decline of unions has seen the decline in wages around the world, biggest group of workers are blue collar, constantly being screwed The smear campaign against the unions has been a great success, union membership is has been on the decline for years, membership is at a all time low, yet unions are destroying us? The only people slagging of unions are the people making money.........greed has become a currency around the world Who made the decision to send manufacturing to china, guess it was factory workers..............lol or the unions! At the end of the day nothing changes, if you work for government or private sector you all went to the same colleges or university's and you all think alike Bring back National service for 2 years!! for everyone...............to radical?............:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 14 hours ago, straycat19 said: That statement on its face is not true. Unions don't protect troublemakers as I found out from personal experience when I was younger. Unions are why all our manufacturing jobs moved overseas. They couldn't even protect their members jobs who didn't cause trouble. All the manufacturing jobs that didn't even have a union went overseas were i live so that didn't have nothing to do with it. It was the Governments fault for signing free trade agreements i live in a non union area that use to have lots of manufacturing jobs . So your just being delusional again . Unions had fudge all to do with it and the trade war has not brought one single job back here because they waited like 20 years too late to have one . A Govt IT shill as yourself dont know nothing about manufacturing . I was working in the plants around here when they closed that's the difference in someone talking about it like you who don't know shit about it and someone who experienced it myself 1st hand. A Union cant protect you if your employer are against Unions and the workers get one in and they close the plant down , but many jobs have had unions for a 100 years and these places pay good money but not being in a Union you have no workers rights and they pay you what ever they want as long as it minimum wage or above plus they closed those plants down and moved them overseas because they only have to pay there workers $1 a hour in Asia . Plants have ways to get around Unions they just hire non union contractors to do the work . Being the greedy slime balls most CEOS are they will just pimp your job out underbid them to contractors . But still that dont matter to them if you make $30 dollars a hour or $10 dollars a hour when they can replace your job with someone who makes $1 a hour. Because there greedy slime balls no one made billions of dollars for there company being a nice guy. If your not good at being a slime ball they will replace you with someone who is. The reason Bill Gates step down was because of Antitrust he step down in the middle of it. That most likely the only thing that saved Microsoft . But the idiot they replaced him with is now replaced with someone who very good at being a slime ball . Well in my area in manufacturing they really didn't have CEOS you could never get that high up because we had presidents and vice presidents that ran it . You had to be family or marry into the family and inherit it. All the big shots were there family as high you could go up was plant manger the rest of the higher up jobs were inherited . They kept the poor (poor while they got rich off the poor for like a 100 years 20th Century slavery . and they still doing it but now its just done in China 21st Century slavery were they make 10 times more. Land of the free my . Its more like the land of the Free half the time as long as you was not at work, then you was so tired from slave labor all you could do is sleep unless you are rich. If your working for some place were you have no rights to freedom of speech or what ever there against that is a constitutional right and you make good money your just a higher paid slave is all what the slaves use to call a Uncle Tom a person who sucks up to there master so they can live better. Just replace master with boss and there you have it. I moved away before and I worked for non union contractors in logistics we was contracting for a giant Chemical Company that had plants all over the USA that had a Union. But you saying that why jobs went overseas that not true at all if you was in a Union you was lucky but once you retired (And they would pay you off to retire early) they most likely never hired no one permanent to do your job they replace you with contract workers . Jobs are not coming back they renewed one of the Trade Agreements with Mexico and Canada and Plants can git around the Trade War with China by just simply moving to other places in Asia. They no IT jobs around here if you want a good job you ether work in medical or Law . If you dont you will have to work in retail. Around here it like the pandemic really never came because it was already messed up . Maybe working at home will open some of those jobs up to my area. Other people already knew this that's how i can tell you dont know nothing about lost jobs, manufacturing and unions, Your a old man a Baby Boomer and im no spring chicken I'm Generation X but when you was young they was plenty of manufacturing jobs your way older than me and when i was young they was jobs. Its normal to Generation Y they dont even realize what's going on. Soon my Generation is going take your place and were going have to fix this mess you boomers made. Why is it they only elect mostly old farts in office ? Edit: see here Someone that work for Netflix tells you the same thing i said Hes right most social media platforms are ran as a dictatorship they have so much money there more powerful than governments because there unregulated and they have laws to protect them from what people do or say on there platforms if there going kick people off there platforms for saying crazy stuff they should have no protection. But as long as it fits there agenda even if it's a federal crime they allow people to post it. Everything is else expect for the internet is regulated by the FCC already so why should these dictatorship sites get a break? There is so much hypocrisy in mainstream social media circles right now it stinks . Its OK for people who fits there agenda to break the law on there platforms because there protected from being sued .But it not OK for people who they dislike to even have freedom of speech that is a constitutional right. No wonder Twitter are not getting any new members and Facebook membership is on the decline in North America . The rest of the world may start waking up one day. Those people they kick off are still being heard if they kick sites off people leave social media that don't fit there agenda and go to right to the source and join freedom of speech boards and post there news there. So mainstream social media are causing a divide they never cared before 2017 what people said so now people are leaving there just shooting themselves in the foot by kicking off sites that been in print since 1801. GitHub is a good site but it's not the people who run it that make it a good site, its the people who use it that do. If they go somewhere else i will follow. But compared to other Big Tech outfits Microsoft look like a saint . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icebow Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Feel like they should name it something else and not youtube dl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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