Karlston Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Microsoft extends plot to hide Windows 10 Local Accounts setup to rest of the world We reported in September last year that Microsoft was trying to force Windows 10 users into setting up their PCs using Microsoft Accounts by hiding the already small option to use a local account. At the time the “feature” was confined to USA, but now WindowsUnited reports that the missing Local Account option has also extended to Germany. Windows 10 users are still able to trick Windows into offering the option by unplugging their device from the internet during Setup, for example pressing the Flight Mode button and reloading the option page. Even then Microsoft works to steer users away from Local Accounts. If you don’t mind giving Microsoft the power to erase your PC, an online account, of course, has its advantages, such as being able to reset your password from the cloud. A local account has other advantages over a Microsoft account, however, such as increased privacy and not being tied to an online identity which itself can be hacked. For now, Windows 10 users are still able to set up a local account via the usual control panel without issue, but we have to wonder how long this will last. Source: Microsoft extends plot to hide Windows 10 Local Accounts setup to rest of the world (MSPoweruser) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam3971 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Do you know if this is across the board now? As far as I know, I have only seen this on OEM builds on pre-installed machines. With that said, I have not done a clean install using retail in awhile. Hopefully local will stay, never liked M$ account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 We would tie your identity to your device so we can collect data for improving personalized experience. (PS: We sell your data to the highest bidder.) All i want is you music video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BimBamSmash Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 The only thing that constantly puts MS in the spotlights for this kind of moves is how reckless and rash it goes about implementing its goals. But if we want to be fair, these "goals" are what every digital firm is pushing for nowadays anyway. Just the other day, I saw a popup at Google Translate where I was notified they are no longer allowing translation histories unless the service is used with a signed-in Google account. It is negligible compared to what MS is up to in the article above but it gives us the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlston Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, sam3971 said: Do you know if this is across the board now? The article claims that it was only in the US, but now also in Germany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcelproust Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Installed 12 or 13 computers since Monday. Different manufacturers. 3 of the units were practically forcing an online account -- the verbiage has changed from "skip' to "offline account" to "limited experience" ... the moment you disconnect the ethernet cable it's as if none of this was ever an issue. As a matter of fact, if you do the entire process offline it will go by that much faster - you will load into a Edge-screen Welcoming you that much faster. Later, upon installation, always be sure to disable telemetry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhjohns Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 It is really very easy to install without a Microsoft Account. It has never been hidden. Did you notice the screenshot in the article is from one of the first editions of Windows? I think the author wears a tinfoil hat. I only install w/o a MS account for testing in a virtual machine, but my main drive is always with a MS account, and I would never install w/o an internet connection. I also do not disable telemetry as I never had, nor ever will have a tinfoil hat. Signing in with a MS account just makes the whole process much simpler, and smoother. The whole article is click-bait even going to so far as to say that MS would swoop down on your machine, and delete all the files from your hard drive! What a bunch of malarkey! And there you have it boys and girls -- My own humble opinion! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zigzag Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 The Windows 10 won't delete files when its not buggy. Last time with the 1809 build update deleted files but not because of online accounts. We can customize Windows 10 installer to become easy and unattended. I prefer local account with telemetry disabled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greybigtop Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 4 hours ago, dhjohns said: It is really very easy to install without a Microsoft Account. It has never been hidden. Did you notice the screenshot in the article is from one of the first editions of Windows? I think the author wears a tinfoil hat. I only install w/o a MS account for testing in a virtual machine, but my main drive is always with a MS account, and I would never install w/o an internet connection. I also do not disable telemetry as I never had, nor ever will have a tinfoil hat. Signing in with a MS account just makes the whole process much simpler, and smoother. The whole article is click-bait even going to so far as to say that MS would swoop down on your machine, and delete all the files from your hard drive! What a bunch of malarkey! And there you have it boys and girls -- My own humble opinion! Yes, why would anyone believe, that our info should ever be abused by an altruistic beacon of goodness like Microsoft? And yet another socalled "account" is a true blessing. I already have a banana-E-mail with a banana-account and a banana-password when I wish to buy bananas, so how could another account possibly be considered an unneccesary nuissance? BTW: Any trace of sarcasm is random and coincedental! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhjohns Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I use Windows as a service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hajj_3 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 8 hours ago, sam3971 said: Do you know if this is across the board now? As far as I know, I have only seen this on OEM builds on pre-installed machines. With that said, I have not done a clean install using retail in awhile. Hopefully local will stay, never liked M$ account. I installed a copy of windows 10 v1909 iso recently and encountered this problem. I think i used the en-GB iso but it could possibly have been the en-US iso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zanderthunder Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 i just waiting for anyone to release Win10 ISO with automated OOBE process, and forcing to setup under local account instead with disabled telemetries and so on. So I can install Win 10 and straight away to the desktop without that effing OOBE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Steven J. Vaughan-Nichols predicted this in 2015 - Microsoft's Goal is to have everyone tied into their cloud, Chrome OS, just like Windows 10, can work without an Internet connection or the cloud, but both only really show to their best advantage with their respective clouds. They are both hybrid desktop/cloud operating systems. Looking ahead, I see 90 percent and more of users working with hybrid desktop/cloud operating systems. Most people are already well on their way to not using conventional desktop and laptops at all. This trend, even as tablet sales slow, will only continue. Apple is taking Mac OS X to the cloud, but as anyone who has suffered with iCloud knows, Apple has a way to go. There will be a few people who will still use conventional desktops. These are the ones who want real control over their hardware and software. They're the ones who want real security. In short, they're the same people who are already using Linux. So, by 2020, in a very limited way, Linux may be the top "desktop" operating system. It's just that there won't be many traditional desktops left in use. Everyone else will be working with one foot in the cloud and the other in a variety of devices, some of which, like Chromebooks and Surfaces, will look like desktops. https://www.zdnet.com/article/why-there-will-never-be-a-year-of-the-linux-desktop/ He was off by a few years because he didn't think about the Millions holding out on Windows 7 but in less than 3 years 2023 when Windows 8.1 runs out of updates it will even be hard to find a browser that updates for Windows 7 . So Windows users really want have a choice but to join Windows 10 users that have there stuck in the cloud with no control over there Computers the people that want full control will be on Linux because it will the only traditional desktops left .Apple IOS and Google Android already require a account if you want to use there services but the problem with Microsoft services they yet to offer anything a consumer would really want . Most every thing they offer only cater to businesses that are already moving everything into the cloud . Even Facebook is killing there Windows 10 app UWP and there cloud is a joke for consumers unlike Android and IOS were they have lots of offerings in the cloud for consumers. Microsoft has Bing that no one uses ,they have Office that is for businesses and education but its not really needed for the latter because Schools in the USA get buy by just using Chrome OS another hybrid desktop/cloud operating system. they have no video platform like YouTube and No Social Media Platform . LinkedIn caters to businesses , Skype is being phased out in favor of Teams that caters to businesses. It all fine and dandy if your a business but consumers are not there home users stuck with a crippleware watered down version of windows 10 unless they steal the version that is only for enterprises . All is left is Windows 32 programs that been around since windows 95/98/XP that get minor updates that i got bored of in 2011 . As a consumer , ive not needed Windows since 2015 I just have it because i can and as far as Web Apps that only work in the cloud i have a app were i can make my own on Linux using a chromium or Firefox backend not the dreaded electron like Big Tech and lazy devs use that use as much memory as a browser. the day I have to sign in to M$ just to use there stuff will be the day i no longer use it keep in mind i never use other OS that you have to sign in there just becoming more like Google without the Google services that the masses of consumers are addicted too. I never signed to acess the internet and im not going to start now bad enough having to sign into my ISP and having to use a vpn so they can't see what i'm doing i dont need a Big bother like Big tech looking over my shoulder ether they should be sued for invading peoples privacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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