steven36 Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Just when he thinks he’s out, they pull him back in. On Tuesday, the U.S. Department of Justice announced new legal action against exiled NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. The DOJ hopes to recover any profits he makes from the sale of his new book. Ever since Snowden left his job as a contractor for the NSA, released classified documents exposing unprecedented data collection by the U.S. government, and landed himself under the protection of Russia, he’s been a vexing problem for American authorities. Now that he’s back in the media spotlight promoting his new book, Permanent Record, he presents a new issue for government lawyers: How do you prevent the release of a book when that pesky First Amendment exists? The answer seems to be that you can’t, but you can make the whole process a huge headache. In a new civil lawsuit, the DOJ claims that as a former employee of the CIA and contractor for the NSA, Snowden has violated his contracts’ non-disclosure agreements that stipulate he would need to submit the book to his former employers for review prior to its publication. Today is Permanent Record’s release date, and according to the lawsuit, that contractually obligated pre-vetting never took place. From the DOJ’s statement: The United States’ lawsuit does not seek to stop or restrict the publication or distribution of Permanent Record. Rather, under well-established Supreme Court precedent, Snepp v. United States, the government seeks to recover all proceeds earned by Snowden because of his failure to submit his publication for pre-publication review in violation of his alleged contractual and fiduciary obligations. The Supreme Court case the DOJ is referring to involved former CIA agent Frank Snepp’s publication of a memoir in 1977, which was not submitted to the agency for review. Snepp’s book, Decent Interval, recounted his time as an intelligence officer and told the story of a rejected report he submitted to his superiors that was critical of the CIA’s handling of the withdrawal from Saigon at the end of the Vietnam War. Snepp was ordered by the Supreme Court to divert the proceeds from the book’s sale to the CIA and was warned that any future publications would require a review by the agency before publishing. But with Snowden in Russia at the moment, there isn’t much that the U.S. government can force him to do. But that’s where his U.S.-based publishers, MacMillan and Holtzbrinck, come in. “The United States is suing the publisher solely to ensure that no funds are transferred to Snowden, or at his direction, while the court resolves the United States’ claims. Snowden is currently living outside of the United States,” the DOJ said in a statement. A spokesperson for MacMillan did not immediately respond to our request for comment on this story. Earlier this week, Snowden told the hosts of CBS This Morning that he’s willing to travel back to the United States and face charges under the condition that he be given a fair trial. The harsh treatment and sentencing of military whistleblower Chelsea Manning have made the expectation of a fair trial feel like a remote possibility for anyone who’s released classified U.S. government information. The fact that Manning is back in jail for refusing to answer questions relating to the crime she already served time for doesn’t make the situation any better. While losing those book royalties would pale in comparison to the conditions Manning faced—the United Nation’s torture specialist called it “cruel, inhuman and degrading”—Snowden could almost certainly use the money. He’s been in exile in Russia since 2013 with little to show regarding employment. In response to the DOJ’s lawsuit, he’s seizing the promotional opportunity. “This is the book the government does not want you to read,” he wrote on Twitter. He added, “It is hard to think of a greater stamp of authenticity than the US government filing a lawsuit claiming your book is so truthful that it was literally against the law to write.” Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankl1n Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 6 hours ago, steven36 said: Just when he thinks he’s out, they pull him back in. On Tuesday, the U.S. Department of Justice announced new legal action against exiled NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden. The DOJ hopes to recover any profits he makes from the sale of his new book. 6 hours ago, steven36 said: “It is hard to think of a greater stamp of authenticity than the US government filing a lawsuit claiming your book is so truthful that it was literally against the law to write.” I probably wont live to see it, but I look forward to the day when the masses rise up and heads roll. Snowden is a name the history books will someday champion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, frankl1n said: I probably wont live to see it, but I look forward to the day when the masses rise up and heads roll. Snowden is a name the history books will someday champion. I doubt it because what he done was done before and it done no good and no one remembers Perry Fellwock ? Quote In 1971 NSA intelligence analyst Perry Fellwock exposed secret surveillance practices in an interview with Ramparts magazine under the pseudonym Winslow Peck. Legislation was passed in 1973 to stop the NSA from spying, but later ignored. https://www.whistleblower.org/timeline-us-whistleblowers/ This explains how he will be soon forgotten Edward Who? The Snowden Affair Ends with a Whimper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Looking forward to seeing a leaked version. If the money from the book is going to the cia, better not paying for it 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 18, 2019 Author Share Posted September 18, 2019 The next time something bad happens politicians will make laws to kill more of our privacy like after Perry Fellwock told on the NSA . The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) was introduced on May 18, 1977, by Senator Ted Kennedy and was signed into law by President Carter on 25 October 1978 then Bush amended it into the Patriot Act which was amended once again under Obama as the Freedom Act witch cuts back on some of NSA's power . People are like Sheep when things go bad and there life may be in danger they will give up privacy for protection . Some people will sell there privacy for a doughnut and people sympathizing with Big tech and China when there selling your governments AI surveillance Most people are so bind by the forest that they cant see the trees . Like lambs to the slaughter . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinite_Vision Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 I think it is great that everyone is sharing their ideas on here. That is what a healthy forum is for. I have my own opinion on the subject matter and will share my finding. In 2013, @Snowden worked for Clowns in America and then he went to work for No Such Agency. @Snowden how was the farm life? Was it similar to Nellie? Did you enjoy it? Why did you fly to Hong Kong? What was there in Hong Kong? Hong Kong is part of what? Why not Switzerland? Why didn't Brennan bring you home? Gina is in control now. Parades or Restraints? Why wasn't clowns in America program exposed? Macron will not help you. @Snowden you should see his G7 climate presentation. Look at watch. What does it say? Reconcile. Dark to light. We have a song for You. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhjohns Posted September 19, 2019 Share Posted September 19, 2019 Words can not express my contempt for Snowden. He is a Russian pawn. I know many people like him, but I don't. He is a narcissistic ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 54 minutes ago, dhjohns said: Words can not express my contempt for Snowden. He is a Russian pawn. I know many people like him, but I don't. He is a narcissistic ass. You have no proof hes a Russian Pawn if he was they would of gave him a nice place live in and a good job for working with there Government so it's your word against his . And if you look at the facts what you say don't add up even and since your biased toward him means you already lost any clout you already had , because if he done it to help them, he sure has not been rearward for it. I deal in facts not conspiracy theories and the one your spreading is just one of many they even said he was dead once and posted the story he was on here . why would you mess your life up to help a Government that gave you nothing but Asylum ? When you had a good career, money , a nice house and family ! You see were it got Julian Assange things change if Russia and the USA ever come to peace terms again they would feed him to the dogs. I think the only reason Russia lets him live there is because the USA wants him and he can be used for a trade in the future . ------ Snowden said "The reality is this: I had destroyed my access to all the classified material that I provided to journalists before leaving Hong Kong, precisely because I didn't know what was going to happen next. "If I had played ball, I would have left on Day 1 in a limo; I would have been living in a palace; you would have seen them giving me parades in Red Square, Snowden said Russia has allowed him to stay there because it’s an easy way for the country to appear as if it’s doing something good and doesn’t fear retaliation from the United States. Germany and Poland both reached out to him about potential asylum, he said, but feared any blowback from the United States. https://www.npr.org/2019/09/12/760121373/edward-snowden-tells-npr-i-have-been-criticizing-the-russian-government Pawn i have no proof of such , but I don't think hes that intelligent and is self destructive . Some people think hes a trader , some people think hes a hero , i don't think hes nether one because what he done want never change nothing, And if you value your freedom you should not do the things he done. He speaks about privacy and freedom when he gave his up for 5 minutes of fame so hes and oxymoron .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted September 19, 2019 Author Share Posted September 19, 2019 20 hours ago, mp68terr said: Looking forward to seeing a leaked version. If the money from the book is going to the cia, better not paying for it 😜 Its already out i found the audio book with a epub on a Russian site this one https://www.audible.com/pd/Permanent-Record-Audiobook/1250622689 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted September 20, 2019 Share Posted September 20, 2019 Is it supposed to be a leaked version? Audible.com (amazon) asks for about $28 for it. How much will Snowden get? Maybe nothing. Will wait, thanks anyway for the info 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinite_Vision Posted September 21, 2019 Share Posted September 21, 2019 France rejected his claim. Promise made promise kept. Proof. 😉😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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