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This is an old machine with Windows Vista. The only use they have for it is Web browsing and school projects.

The software they use is MS Office 2010. Mostly Word.

The found the PC a little slow.

My recommendation to my friend is that restore the PC to its original condition.

 

Reasons:

An upgrade to Windows 7 is not worthy since it expires next year.

Windows 10, I thing is too much for this old PC

They do not want to invest in a new PC

I belief that restoring it is going to improve their response (hope to be a little faster than now)

 

My question

 

I am in the correct direction with this project? Please let me know.

 

Thanks for the information.

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Ragdd

Specs of this PC?

 

Replacing the harddisk with a budget SSD like the Crucial BX500 will give the PC a significant boost.

Windows 10 has the same hardware requirements like Windows Vista, 7, 8 ,8.1.

Maybe replace Windows with Ubunutu which uses less resources and Libre Office.

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Karlston

Increasing memory can give a boost too, though old memory types may not be easy to find and may be expensive.

 

As @Ragdd says, if we know the specs we can help better.

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sandy4711

use regorganizer - u will be happy !!

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The AchieVer

The speed will  depend upon the type of processor/cpu used by the said machine .

if too many applications are installed and are not used , Then restoring to it’s original state would help.

However, the improvement in the speed would be primarily  related to the cpu.

 

Regards

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vitorio
1 hour ago, Ragdd said:

Replacing the harddisk with a budget SSD like the Crucial BX500 will give the PC a significant boost.

Do I need to pay attention the compatibility of this SSD with the Vista PC specifications.

Thanks.

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mp68terr
Posted (edited)

Would also try a linux-based OS/libreoffice instead of win/office. If keeping win-based OS, there are some very light portable office/word 2003 solutions.

A cheap SSD would help too, witn an associated HD for backups.

 

Edit: forgot what office-like suite is coming with the 'small' Puppy Linux, but worth a try (http://puppylinux.com/).

Edited by mp68terr
Puppy...

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Karlston

An SSD just needs a spare motherboard SATA port.

 

One thing to consider early is what OS to use.  If the users are used to Office on Windows, it may be best to stay with Windows, otherwise moving to Linux seems the best option for an old PC.

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vitorio
2 minutes ago, Karlston said:

An SSD just needs a spare motherboard SATA port.

 

One thing to consider early is what OS to use.  If the users are used to Office on Windows, it may be best to stay with Windows, otherwise moving to Linux seems the best option for an old PC.

I agree with you 100% on this. Since it a a Desktop 3.5 disk, maybe I need an enclosure to connect 2.5 to 3.5, right?

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Ragdd

You need a SATA connector on the motherboard and SATA power connector.

There are 4 pins to SATA power adapter when needed.

 

If it's SATA 150 / 300 /600 connector on the motherboard, doesn't matter because the fast accestime will make te PC faster, not the higher bandwith of the SSD.

And prefered is a SATA connector using the chipset, not an extra SATA chip.

 

Windows Vista doesn't support native trim.

Or use a tool to manual trim the SSD from time to time.

Or use Windows 7 or higher

Or over provision the SSD, leave 10% un-partitioned.

 

Adding RAM can help, but will not boost your speed as a SSD does.

Slow CPU is most of the time not the issue for Office and surfing.

 

I had many Netbook with 1 GB RAM and Atom CPU and by replacing the HDD with a SSD, the netbook felt more reactive.

 

SSD, you have a lot of brands (good and bad).

For Budget SSD, I recommend the Crucial BX500 or Adata SU800.

For +/- 10 euro extra, you have the mucht better Crucial MX500 which is a lot faster and 5 years warranty.

You have some cheaper brands, but the performance is sometimes less then a normal harddisk.

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el_espaniol

1 -> Restore the pc to the original state... 

 

2 -> Then, debloat the crapware installed, use lightweight software.

 

3 -> Optimize PC BIOS settings and OS...

 

4 -> If You can afford it, put additional RAM and/or higher CPU...

 

Best Luck with the project...!

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brain_death
3 hours ago, mp68terr said:

Edit: forgot what office-like suite is coming with the 'small' Puppy Linux, but worth a try (http://puppylinux.com/).

 

Puppy has AbiWord for word processing. You can install LibreOffice if you want to...

 

😉

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coromonadalix

Well  i would say  check every background processes, you could be surprised,  harware come in second place

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Karlston
11 hours ago, vitorio said:

Since it a a Desktop 3.5 disk, maybe I need an enclosure to connect 2.5 to 3.5, right?

 

Yes, unlikely there's any 2.5" bays in a Vista-vintage case.

 

Look for a "caddy". Something like this... https://www.pccasegear.com/products/38897/orico-2-5-to-3-5in-hard-drive-caddy

 

10 hours ago, Ragdd said:

Windows Vista doesn't support native trim.

Or use a tool to manual trim the SSD from time to time.

Or use Windows 7 or higher

Or over provision the SSD, leave 10% un-partitioned.

 

This is good advice. AFAIK, some SSD manufacturers also include software that can do TRIM in case the OS doesn't support it. For example Samsung's Samsung Magician.

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vitorio
Posted (edited)

In one week I am going to see the PC. Until then I only know is a Windows Vista Desktop PC.

Edited by vitorio

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teodz1984

Ask then, hard to make assumptions on what you don't see in front of you..

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Kuyakoy

Use Lubuntu.

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erp-ster0
11 hours ago, vitorio said:

In one week I am going to see the PC. Until then I only know is a Windows Vista Desktop PC.

 

when you do see the Vista PC, run a program called Speccy on there to gather the computer specs

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Jime234
22 hours ago, vitorio said:

In one week I am going to see the PC. Until then I only know is a Windows Vista Desktop PC.

we will be waiting

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vitorio
Posted (edited)

This are the specs for the Windows Vista PC

 

Operating System
    Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit SP2
CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.40GHz    74 °C
    Kentsfield 65nm Technology
RAM
    6.00GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 332MHz (5-5-5-15)
Motherboard
    Dell Inc. 0FM586 (Socket 775)    40 °C
Graphics
    D3218HN ([email protected])
    Intel G33/G31 Express Chipset Family (Dell)
Storage
    596GB Western Digital WDC WD6400AAKS-75A7B0 ATA Device (SATA )    39 °C
Optical Drives
    HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GSA-H73N ATA Device
Audio
    Realtek High Definition Audio

 

 

 

 

Motherboard
    Manufacturer    Dell Inc.
    Model    0FM586 (Socket 775)
    Version    ÿÿÿ
    Chipset Vendor    Intel
    Chipset Model    P35/G33/G31
    Chipset Revision    A2
    Southbridge Vendor    Intel
    Southbridge Model    82801IR (ICH9R)
    Southbridge Revision    02
    System Temperature    40 °C
        BIOS
            Brand    Dell Inc.
            Version    1.0.13
            Date    3/20/2008
        Voltage
            CPU CORE    1.136 V
            MEMORY CONTROLLER    3.056 V
            +3.3V    3.328 V
            +5V    5.027 V
            +12V    11.968 V
            +5V HIGH THRESHOLD    4.946 V
        PCI Data
                Slot PCI
                    Slot Type    PCI
                    Slot Usage    Available
                    Bus Width    32 bit
                    Slot Designation    PCI1
                    Characteristics    5V, PME
                    Slot Number    0
                Slot PCI
                    Slot Type    PCI
                    Slot Usage    In Use
                    Bus Width    32 bit
                    Slot Designation    PCI2
                    Characteristics    5V, PME
                    Slot Number    1
                Slot PCI
                    Slot Type    PCI
                    Slot Usage    Available
                    Data lanes    x16
                    Slot Designation    PCI3
                    Characteristics    5V, PME
                    Slot Number    2
                Slot PCI
                    Slot Type    PCI
                    Slot Usage    Available
                    Data lanes    x1
                    Slot Designation    PCI4
                    Characteristics    5V, PME
                    Slot Number    3

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teodz1984
Posted (edited)

74 °C - slowdown could be simply caused by thermal throttling.. too much dust too 

better get that machine cleaned up.. esp the cpu core... i.e.  disassemble  the cpu core ,and clean it .. the fan and the heat sink.. also reapply thermal paste..

Edited by teodz1984

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vitorio

Checked the Dell Desktop PC and personally I do not found the PC slow for their use ( Word and WEB browsing).

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teodz1984

Slowness is all relative..   If your friend has used a much newer PC.. his old PC will be slower :)

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vitorio
20 minutes ago, teodz1984 said:

74 °C 

better get that machine cleaned up.. esp the cpu core... i.e.  disassemble  the cpu core ,and clean it .. the fan and the heat sink.. also reapply thermal

paste..

I think the temperature is due to the PC is inside a gabinet with no ventilation inside.

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