Matrix Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 YouTube's CEO is warning that the platform may have to begin blocking videos in response to legislation making its way through the EU Parliament. The final text of Article 13 is yet to be decided but Susan Wojcicki is warning that the current wording would hold it responsible for the copyright infringements of users, something that could impact the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of people. Two years ago the European Commission announced plans to modernize EU copyright law. Some of the proposals were hugely controversial. Article 13, for example, would see the liability for infringing content switched from users of sites like YouTube to the platform itself. But, despite warnings, in September the European Parliament voted in favor of proposals put forward by Axel Voss’ EPP group. This is a revised version of the original proposal, but one that would still pave the way for upload filters, to prevent infringing content from reaching sites like YouTube in the first place. However, speaking today in Financial Times (paywall), YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki says that blocking videos may be the platform’s only option. “While we support the goals of article 13, the European Parliament’s current proposal will create unintended consequences that will have a profound impact on the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of people,” Wojcicki writes. “The parliament’s approach is unrealistic in many cases because copyright owners often disagree over who owns what rights. If the owners cannot agree, it is impossible to expect the open platforms that host this content to make the correct rights decisions.” Using the hit “Despacito” as an example, Wojcicki says that the track contains multiple copyrights including sound recording and publishing rights. YouTube has agreements with several parties to license the video but other rightsholders remain unknown. This could present a situation so complex that YouTube might have to stop hosting the video altogether. “That uncertainty means we might have to block videos like this to avoid liability under article 13. Multiply that risk with the scale of YouTube, where more than 400 hours of video are uploaded every minute, and the potential liabilities could be so large that no company could take on such a financial risk,” she adds. While the rest of the world appears to be safe from such blocking, YouTube’s CEO warns that it is EU residents that will be affected. During the last month alone, videos were viewed by citizens more than 90 billion times. Wojcicki says her company wants to work with policymakers and the industry to develop Article 13 in a way that protects rightsholders but without stifling the creative economy. That might including broader licensing agreements, improved collaboration with rightsholders, and technical solutions, similar to Content ID. “Platforms that follow these rules, and make a good effort to help rights holders identify their content, shouldn’t be held directly liable for every single piece of content that a user uploads,” Wojcicki writes. “We ask policymakers to find a solution that protects rights holders and creators alike, and listen to the growing number of EU voices, including some member countries, who agree there’s a better way forward.” In a report last week detailing how Google fights piracy, the company noted that between October 2017 to September 2018, YouTube had paid more than $1.8 billion to the music industry from in advertising revenue alone. Last Friday, however, that figure was challenged by IFPI Chief Executive, Frances Moore. “We welcome Google’s recognition that it and Google’s YouTube need to operate responsibly and properly value creators and their work. However, the figures in Google’s anti-piracy paper don’t match our own,” Moore said. “It is difficult to get any clarity on Google’s claims as it doesn’t explain its methodology, but IFPI data shows that revenue returning to the record industry through video streaming services (including but not limited to YouTube) with 1.3 billion users amounted to US $856 million in 2017 – less than half of Google’s claim and less than US $1 per user per year.” It seems clear that YouTube and the music industry are yet to see eye to eye on this problem but with the platform suggesting that blocking might be the only option, as we envisioned earlier, the pressure is increasing on supporters of Article 13 to avoid this worst-case scenario. source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouTube's CEO is warning that the platform may have to begin blocking videos in response to legislation making its way through the EU Parliament. The final text of Article 13 is yet to be decided but Susan Wojcicki is warning that the current wording would hold it responsible for the copyright infringements of users, something that could impact the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of people. Two years ago the European Commission announced plans to modernize EU copyright law. Some of the proposals were hugely controversial. Article 13, for example, would see the liability for infringing content switched from users of sites like YouTube to the platform itself. But, despite warnings, in September the European Parliament voted in favor of proposals put forward by Axel Voss’ EPP group. This is a revised version of the original proposal, but one that would still pave the way for upload filters, to prevent infringing content from reaching sites like YouTube in the first place. However, speaking today in Financial Times (paywall), YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki says that blocking videos may be the platform’s only option. “While we support the goals of article 13, the European Parliament’s current proposal will create unintended consequences that will have a profound impact on the livelihoods of hundreds of thousands of people,” Wojcicki writes. “The parliament’s approach is unrealistic in many cases because copyright owners often disagree over who owns what rights. If the owners cannot agree, it is impossible to expect the open platforms that host this content to make the correct rights decisions.” Using the hit “Despacito” as an example, Wojcicki says that the track contains multiple copyrights including sound recording and publishing rights. YouTube has agreements with several parties to license the video but other rightsholders remain unknown. This could present a situation so complex that YouTube might have to stop hosting the video altogether. “That uncertainty means we might have to block videos like this to avoid liability under article 13. Multiply that risk with the scale of YouTube, where more than 400 hours of video are uploaded every minute, and the potential liabilities could be so large that no company could take on such a financial risk,” she adds. While the rest of the world appears to be safe from such blocking, YouTube’s CEO warns that it is EU residents that will be affected. During the last month alone, videos were viewed by citizens more than 90 billion times. Wojcicki says her company wants to work with policymakers and the industry to develop Article 13 in a way that protects rightsholders but without stifling the creative economy. That might including broader licensing agreements, improved collaboration with rightsholders, and technical solutions, similar to Content ID. “Platforms that follow these rules, and make a good effort to help rights holders identify their content, shouldn’t be held directly liable for every single piece of content that a user uploads,” Wojcicki writes. “We ask policymakers to find a solution that protects rights holders and creators alike, and listen to the growing number of EU voices, including some member countries, who agree there’s a better way forward.” In a report last week detailing how Google fights piracy, the company noted that between October 2017 to September 2018, YouTube had paid more than $1.8 billion to the music industry from in advertising revenue alone. Last Friday, however, that figure was challenged by IFPI Chief Executive, Frances Moore. “We welcome Google’s recognition that it and Google’s YouTube need to operate responsibly and properly value creators and their work. However, the figures in Google’s anti-piracy paper don’t match our own,” Moore said. “It is difficult to get any clarity on Google’s claims as it doesn’t explain its methodology, but IFPI data shows that revenue returning to the record industry through video streaming services (including but not limited to YouTube) with 1.3 billion users amounted to US $856 million in 2017 – less than half of Google’s claim and less than US $1 per user per year.” It seems clear that YouTube and the music industry are yet to see eye to eye on this problem but with the platform suggesting that blocking might be the only option, as we envisioned earlier, the pressure is increasing on supporters of Article 13 to avoid this worst-case scenario.
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Sylence Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 Europe = the new upcoming North Korea. just wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 YouTube Ceo looks like a joke one week she hollers that copyright filters is going mess up the internet and the her site owners are barging about how they comply with copyright Google dont want to pay the EU a few pennies a day to let everyone be able to watch them this is nothing new they use to block Germany for the same reason . Google are the ones that gave the EU the Idea of piracy filters they are the ones who invented them. Google’s Anti-Piracy Filter Is Quite Effective July 12, 2011 https://torrentfreak.com/googles-anti-piracy-filter-110712/ Google has been censoring the internet since Jan 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 23 hours ago, steven36 said: YouTube Ceo looks like a joke one week she hollers that copyright filters is going mess up the internet and the her site owners are barging about how they comply with copyright Google dont want to pay the EU a few pennies a day to let everyone be able to watch them this is nothing new they use to block Germany for the same reason . Google are the ones that gave the EU the Idea of piracy filters they are the ones who invented them. Google’s Anti-Piracy Filter Is Quite Effective July 12, 2011 https://torrentfreak.com/googles-anti-piracy-filter-110712/ Google has been censoring the internet since Jan 2011 why should they pay? the lawmakers in EU are doing this, and europeans don't even care, no complains, nothing, just like a good boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 17 hours ago, Sylence said: why should they pay? the lawmakers in EU are doing this, and europeans don't even care, no complains, nothing, just like a good boy. Because YouTube gets paid and YouTube already pays some but not what they should . Quote Google has published a new report revealing how it tackles the problem of piracy on its own search engine and on YouTube. In ‘How Google Fights Piracy’ for 2018, the search giant claims its video platform has paid rightsholders over $3 billion through Content ID. In addition, the company has invested over $100 million in building Content ID. This includes staffing and computing resources. From October 2017 to September 2018, YouTube paid out over $1.8 billion in ad revenue to the music industry. According to Google, the popular video platform has allegedly paid the industry over $6 billion in total ad revenue. Continuing praising its anti-piracy platform, the search giant has over 9,000 partners using Content ID to manage and monetize their works. Partners include major network broadcasters, movie studios, movie studios, music publishers, and record labels. They’ve provided more than 80 million active reference files for the anti-piracy platform. Google has also evaluated 882 million URLs containing copyrighted works. Of that amount, the search giant removed 95% of infringing links. Protecting original works, Google pushed back on around 54 million removal requests deemed incomplete, mistaken, and abusive. The search giant also took down more than 10 million ads suspected of copyright infringement. Touting its Content ID platform once more, YouTube handled 98% of copyright issues through the anti-piracy platform. Over 90% of these claims, continues the search giant, result in monetization, generating ‘significant revenue’ for partners. Promoting its platform as beneficial to the music industry, Google wrote, Quote “Through the recently launched YouTube Music…YouTube is the premier destination for fans to discover, share, and listen to legitimate sources of the music they love.” Taylor Swift’s ‘Shake It Off,’ for example, generated over 2.5 billion views, “ten times more listens than on leading streaming services.” Over 100 videos exist on the video platform that have surpassed the 1 billion views mark. Yet, Google remained suspiciously quiet on exact payouts, instead highlighting the generic ‘$6 billion’ ad revenue number. According to our ongoing streaming payouts chart, Swift would’ve earned around $1.9 million on the video platform for 2.5 billion streams. On Spotify and Apple Music, she would’ve earned $9.9 million and $19.6 million, respectively. According to the IFPI, YouTube remains the largest barrier to paid streaming in the US. In its Music Consumer Insight Report published earlier this year, the organization noted, “35% say a main reason for not using a paid audio subscription is that anything they want to listen to is on YouTube.” Paradoxically, this also hurts Google’s brand-new streaming platform, YouTube Music. In addition, the search giant didn’t reveal its own study’s methodology. This means people can’t independently verify the figures Google has published in its own self-serving report. That hasn’t stopped the search giant from praising its own inflated findings. Concluding the study, Google writes, Quote “Today, Google’s services are generating more revenue for creators and rightsholders, connecting more people with the content they love, and doing more to fight back against online piracy than ever before. YouTube and Google Play have helped millions of creators worldwide to reach global audiences and generate revenue.” https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/11/07/latest-google-youtube-piracy-report/ The other streaming sites are paying artist millions and millions more while YouTube pays them very little . YouTube and there crappy low bitrate audio if you don't want to pay just pirate the song and save it to a hard drive or dvd and you can listen to in far better quality than anything YouTube has to offer forever. I started pirating music in 2001 long before they were any streaming sites. Music Piracy will always be around with or without YouTube .. Google promotes there site YouTube as a place for Artist to make money when they only pay them very little of the money . If YouTube blocks videos in the EU the only ones that will be losing out on money is YouTube . EU people will just go to Spotify or Dezzer and listen for free and the Artist will get paid way more so it's a win for the EU and the the Music industry if they block those videos. In China they block YouTube and TikTok got almost 2 million more streamers last month than YouTube did world wide . Any kind of censorship is one mans lost and another mans gain . If YouTube blocks videos in the EU it will just be replaced with something else. As far Music streaming I have Music choice addon and a addon that leaches off a Russian MP3 site full albums of any music you can think of for Kodi. Also I have internet radio and sound cloud apps . Also I have addons in Kodi and websites bookmarked that will give me far better movies than anything YouTube has for Kodi and local . That's YouTube problem they will be the one losing out on hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, steven36 said: Because YouTube gets paid and YouTube already pays some but not what they should . https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/11/07/latest-google-youtube-piracy-report/ The other streaming sites are paying artist millions and millions more while YouTube pays them very little . YouTube and there crappy low bitrate audio if you don't want to pay just pirate the song and save it to a hard drive or dvd and you can listen to in far better quality than anything YouTube has to offer forever. I started pirating music in 2001 long before they were any streaming sites. Music Piracy will always be around with or without YouTube .. Google promotes there site YouTube as a place for Artist to make money when they only pay them very little of the money . If YouTube blocks videos in the EU the only ones that will be losing out on money is YouTube . EU people will just go to Spotify or Dezzer and listen for free and the Artist will get paid way more so it's a win for the EU and the the Music industry if they block those videos. In China they block YouTube and TikTok got almost 2 million more streamers last month than YouTube did world wide . Any kind of censorship is one mans lost and another mans gain . If YouTube blocks videos in the EU it will just be replaced with something else. As far Music streaming I have Music choice addon and a addon that leaches off a Russian MP3 site full albums of any music you can think of for Kodi. Also I have internet radio and sound cloud apps . Also I have addons in Kodi and websites bookmarked that will give me far better movies than anything YouTube has for Kodi and local . That's YouTube problem they will be the one losing out on hits. companies pay channel owners to show ads on their videos and youtube only takes some percent of it. now idk what's the connection between channel owners and governments. if channel owners complain about getting paid low they gotta take it up to the companies who pay for their ads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Sylence said: companies pay channel owners to show ads on their videos and youtube only takes some percent of it. now idk what's the connection between channel owners and governments. if channel owners complain about getting paid low they gotta take it up to the companies who pay for their ads. The content creators the ones who make the videos are the ones who lobbied and paid millions of dollars in donations to get it passed in the EU ..While Google lobbied and paid millions of dollars in donations to get it not passed in the EU and they failed . This makes the 3rd time Susan Wojcicki cried for EU users to turn against Article 13 and failed . 0 for 3: YouTube Once Again Begs Users to Turn Against Article 13 https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/11/12/youtube-susan-wojcicki-v-copyright-directive/ When they banning creators and ch owners and deleting there videos and cutting there money every month.. it's very hard to sell any idea to people in the EU ..It's like YouTube is saying do as i say, not as I do . If they want to get the people behind them, they have to give them a reason to get behind them .Not a bunch of hot air that have no meaning ..They have to lead by example and right now they have nothing to offer on the table for creators but doing them dirty. Many of the creators of independent videos have left YouTube this year and went to patreon so they can get paid ..YouTube got new rules say if vevo are or any ch owner put up a video if you post the same video they will delete it. Back years ago when they blocked Germany, it was very easy to get around because chances are you could find a not blocked video that was a duplicate, but not any more because if its posted already your not allowed to post it again. YouTube just today added merch store in the EU like they have in the USA to let creators sell custom merchandise so the YouTube depends on the EU a lot for revenue are they would not be trying to give them new incentives to stay. That' a start that means that creators can sell you videos and only release the ones they want to give away to get them popular . But the desire to get paid from YouTube 10,000 views to even be paid causes people to post a bunch of junk videos so they will get hits the site is full of rubbish videos and still it dont pay nothing. 96.5% of YouTubers Don’t Earn Enough to Cross the Poverty Line, Study Finds https://www.fastcompany.com/40537244/96-5-of-youtube-creators-dont-make-above-the-u-s-poverty-line YouTube stars don't even earn enough money to pay the rent, there living a pipe dream and need to stop smoking the and get a job that pays decent . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 i see utube added things like this on rt RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government Wikipedia they not sure if its in whole or in part hehehe cnn not one thing foxnews not one thing abc news not one thing Sky News not one thing bbc BBC is a British public broadcast serviceWikipedia msnbc not one thing USA TODAY not one thing The Sun not one thing the games play on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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