tao Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 BERLIN (Reuters) - Germany’s BSI federal cyber agency said on Wednesday it had no evidence to back media reports that Russian hackers used Kaspersky Lab antivirus software to spy on U.S. authorities. “There are no plans to warn against the use of Kaspersky products since the BSI has no evidence for misconduct by the company or weaknesses in its software,” BSI said in an emailed response to questions about the latest media reports. “The BSI has no indications at this time that the process occurred as described in the media.” The New York Times reported on Tuesday that Israeli intelligence officials spying on Russian government hackers found they were using Kaspersky software as a sort of Google search to find sensitive data stored by U.S. government agencies and others. It said the Russian operation also stole classified documents from a U.S. National Security Agency employee who had improperly stored them on his home computer, which had Kaspersky antivirus software installed on it. The U.S. government last month ordered Kaspersky software removed from government computers, saying it was concerned the Moscow-based cyber security firm was vulnerable to Kremlin influence. Kaspersky Lab has repeatedly denied any knowledge of, or involvement in, Russian hack1ing. ”Kaspersky Lab has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage efforts,” a company statement said on Tuesday in response to the New York Times report. Germany’s BSI, which also uses Kaspersky products for technical analyses, said it was in touch with U.S. officials and other security agencies about the issue so it could take action and issue a warning on short notice if required. It said German government agencies could use software protection for clients and servers that is offered by CANCOM online GmbH, which works together with Trend Micro (4704.T). < Here > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 The difference with this was Germany BSI federal cyber agency spoke out who ever the WSJ sources are from the USA that are telling them there info are doing it on a condition anonymity. If any of it is true or if it not even true if any of them still work for the Government they will lose there jobs for leaking classified info too the press if they found out who is talking. In reality the US agencies have not made a public statement on the record about did this really happen or not . It's a case of some leakers saying he said, she said and we have no idea who the sources was. it could of just been made up . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacker7 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I don't think eather that kasper is spying on behave of the Russian government but that kaspersky products kod been compromised is a big possibility now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 It said the Russian operation also stole classified documents from a U.S. National Security Agency employee who had improperly stored them on his home computer, which had Kaspersky antivirus software installed on it. Kaspersky did not stole classified documents Kaspersky scan them as they was bad hacking tools y people not say as is Kaspersky is and was trying to help stop virus and things like that 1 minute ago, hacker7 said: I don't think eather that kasper is spying on behave of the Russian government but that kaspersky products kod been compromised is a big possibility now! kaspersky is not compromised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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steven36 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 14 minutes ago, hacker7 said: I don't think eather that kasper is spying on behave of the Russian government but that kaspersky products kod been compromised is a big possibility now! And the truth is they want never tell you and you want never really know why, only you will able too speculate why, unless some leaker has documents too back up there claims. There is no real proof of any of this. Maybe under another president you may find out , but not under this one you want ever know what really happened and really why they removed Kaspersky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
حمزة النواري Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hacker7 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 9 hours ago, steven36 said: And the truth is they want never tell you and you want never really know why only you will able too speculate why unless some leaker has documents too back up there claims. There is no real proof of any of this. I agree with you Steven but sometimes through experience and seeing the same pattern over and over We some how develop a skill to be able to read between lines Prof not always needed for one to understand! but as u said will never be able to prove it ether ! 9 hours ago, knowledge said: kaspersky is not compromised i didn't say it's compromised! I said it's a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 8 minutes ago, hacker7 said: I agree with you Steven but sometimes through experience and seeing the same pattern over and over We some how develop a skill to be able to read between lines Prof not always needed for one to understand! but as u said will never be able to prove it ether ! i didn't say it's compromised! I said it's a possibility. much things are possibility edit Every router in America has been compromised google about cherry blossom hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 What The press says and what the Governments say have always been two different things if the press don't have no real proof it is bad as fake news . Russia and the USA may not see eye to eye on everything but both Governments have respect for each other and keep there classified info classified. If Russia are the USA told us what they really know i don't think people would really be able to handle it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knowledge-Spammer Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 3 minutes ago, steven36 said: What The press says and what the Governments say have always been two different things if the press don't have no real proof it is bad as fake news . Russia and the USA may not see eye to eye on everything but both Governments have respect for each other and keep there classified info classified. If Russia are the USA told us what they really know i don't think people would really be able to handle it . some people can't handle the truth You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 A real whistle blower would have proof, this happen in the USA before some people in Government made up lies and caused a war and a lot of people died and the person was found out and he had too pull time is prison for exposing a CIA agent because her husband exposed the USA Government and told the truth. but what little time he pulled will never bring all those people back. More Info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame And https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair https://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-exposure-of-valerie-plame/ And there movies about it Nothing but the Truth and Fair Game. Telling the truth about the government could cost you everything or you could even be killed. Trump vs. Bush: They Said There Were Weapons of Mass Destruction And They Knew There Were None. They Lied. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/02/13/trump_vs_bush_they_said_there_were_weapons_of_mass_destruction_and_they_knew_there_were_none_they_lied.html People in the USA and the rest of west believed it too and other countries went over there killed people too and the Media posted this Fake News day after day to justify that war that was based on lies the USA had wiped out the WOMD in the 1st war there was none . People were blinded by the fact that 9-11 just happened and were naive and believed anything our Government said. I seen it all on the News back then. So really I don't know what too believe anymore? Fake Intel and News is very dangerous stuff ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nIGHT Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 "Believe only when there is proof of evidence through disassembly and analysis of data and logged data made by forensic experts." When there is no evidence then there is nothing to prove its innocence or guilt. Either the evidence is hidden to the public, destroyed or just simply made up, no one knows for sure. But when you accuse someone of wrongdoings, it will be wise to show proof of evidence first otherwise many, but not all,will believe it is made up or just fake news. Hacking is hard to prove on a remote location when you do not have access to servers where connection passes, since only the targeted ip, the target computer and those servers he passes will contain traces. When you sent a payload (malicious code) to a backdoor handling software, only that target will receive it and the rest is spared. The traces of data being sent to the target computer can only be seen on servers where this connection passes,intercepted and recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pc71520 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 19 hours ago, adi said: Germany’s BSI federal cyber agency said on Wednesday it had no evidence to back media reports that Russian hackers used Kaspersky Lab antivirus software to spy on U.S. authorities. Uncle Sam will be really now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 I believe in kaspersky I honestly dont know how much I trust the government my government I dont want to get into politics but I dont trust trump I trust trump about as far as I can throw him (good luck throwing that fatass). I like kaspersky and trust kaspersky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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