Why are Windows XP users still clinging to the past?

[Israeli_Eagle]

Windows 10 (Skynet) is for sure more dangerous!

I can block M$ with a firewall but I cant make M$ ever support XP ever again so how is it more safe ? and even if they was to support it again witch never happen by the way.. I could less using a O/S that used from 2001 -2010.

Many parts you can firewall, but never fully. Because the Skynet is already inside of the OS!!

Then firewall it with a router/network device then if you think it will foil all software Firewalls. The OS is not a God, it isn't going to break through a hardware firewall.

Impossible, sorry. But first you have understand real assembly code and also internet.

But what you're saying when you speak of assembly code and also the internet , If you're that paranoid you better stay away from the internet all together . Because M$ are not the only one who collect data every website almost on the web does and many products not made by M$ does too.

I'm not paranoid, but officially specialist about that. Well... But is your problem, not mine. So enjoy it! :lol:

Ive been on the net like a decade and a half and no Government spooks have ever bothered me in real life . And in tell it was to happen i would call you paranoid If that ever changes Ill let you know. :P :D

Again... Your problem, not mine. I'm really 100% safe.

[steven36]

Windows 10 (Skynet) is for sure more dangerous!

I can block M$ with a firewall but I cant make M$ ever support XP ever again so how is it more safe ? and even if they was to support it again witch never happen by the way.. I could less using a O/S that used from 2001 -2010.

Many parts you can firewall, but never fully. Because the Skynet is already inside of the OS!!

Then firewall it with a router/network device then if you think it will foil all software Firewalls. The OS is not a God, it isn't going to break through a hardware firewall.

Impossible, sorry. But first you have understand real assembly code and also internet.

But what you're saying when you speak of assembly code and also the internet , If you're that paranoid you better stay away from the internet all together . Because M$ are not the only one who collect data every website almost on the web does and many products not made by M$ does too.

I'm not paranoid, but officially specialist about that. Well... But is your problem, not mine. So enjoy it! :lol:

Ive been on the net like a decade and a half and no Government spooks have ever bothered me in real life . And in tell it was to happen i would call you paranoid If that ever changes Ill let you know. :P :D

Again... Your problem, not mine. I'm really 100% safe.

So you're safe and no one else is ? If you're a Government spook how do you know someone from you're office dont be watching you. ? You may scare some Noob but you dont scare me at all I dont live in you're country .

[Israeli_Eagle]

Windows 10 (Skynet) is for sure more dangerous!

I can block M$ with a firewall but I cant make M$ ever support XP ever again so how is it more safe ? and even if they was to support it again witch never happen by the way.. I could less using a O/S that used from 2001 -2010.

Many parts you can firewall, but never fully. Because the Skynet is already inside of the OS!!

Then firewall it with a router/network device then if you think it will foil all software Firewalls. The OS is not a God, it isn't going to break through a hardware firewall.

Impossible, sorry. But first you have understand real assembly code and also internet.

But what you're saying when you speak of assembly code and also the internet , If you're that paranoid you better stay away from the internet all together . Because M$ are not the only one who collect data every website almost on the web does and many products not made by M$ does too.

I'm not paranoid, but officially specialist about that. Well... But is your problem, not mine. So enjoy it! :lol:

Ive been on the net like a decade and a half and no Government spooks have ever bothered me in real life . And in tell it was to happen i would call you paranoid If that ever changes Ill let you know. :P :D

Again... Your problem, not mine. I'm really 100% safe.

So you're safe and no one else is ? If you're a Government spook so how do you know someone from you're office dont be watching you.

Yes, some few people can but not many. Sorry... And with the worst OS actually no chance.

[steven36]

Windows 10 (Skynet) is for sure more dangerous!

I can block M$ with a firewall but I cant make M$ ever support XP ever again so how is it more safe ? and even if they was to support it again witch never happen by the way.. I could less using a O/S that used from 2001 -2010.

Many parts you can firewall, but never fully. Because the Skynet is already inside of the OS!!

Then firewall it with a router/network device then if you think it will foil all software Firewalls. The OS is not a God, it isn't going to break through a hardware firewall.

Impossible, sorry. But first you have understand real assembly code and also internet.

But what you're saying when you speak of assembly code and also the internet , If you're that paranoid you better stay away from the internet all together . Because M$ are not the only one who collect data every website almost on the web does and many products not made by M$ does too.

I'm not paranoid, but officially specialist about that. Well... But is your problem, not mine. So enjoy it! :lol:

Ive been on the net like a decade and a half and no Government spooks have ever bothered me in real life . And in tell it was to happen i would call you paranoid If that ever changes Ill let you know. :P :D

Again... Your problem, not mine. I'm really 100% safe.

So you're safe and no one else is ? If you're a Government spook so how do you know someone from you're office dont be watching you.

Yes, some few people can but not many. Sorry... And with the worst OS actually no chance.

People who spread panic and fear in people are no better than a dictator. NSA uses most of there info to get people I never known or care to ever known . You're country hacked kaspersky to get info . Thats not windows just a app on and O/S

[HX1]

With knowledge of business and being able to study the market and demographics.. The computing industry itself has changed a great deal in the past lets says five years. This information that is gathered and studies which are done on internet queries as well as user input allow ccompanies to focus their programs and OSes in that direction to be a product that is desired and sales... In so many cases we have seen a follow the leader scenario.. If a company creates a product which sales then the others follow to share in that market.. PlayStation, Nintendo, gameboys, PSP.. then XBOX for example.

For some it is too little too late. If you needed an edge on what direction to go next with an OS.. what would you do.. You know that ultimately covering all needs can create a bloated system by itself.. too many routines, options, commands, and settings for some who get confused. OR are actually first time users who do not fully understand. Online mostly we share information about that in certain areas. Like here in the forums. BUT if you were optimizing and focusing on what mattered most to be more expedient and proficient in addressing these areas and ready fro change to move forward and be able to stay on top.. what would be the base structure you would go on and what data would you use? Where and how would get that data? What other things would you find out along the way in gathering this data and using it in a way which is beneficial to the objective?

When would we say that it is time to use something new and it is time to attract attention to ourselves to survive and who would we appeal to? Are we going to loo to new technologies .. are we going to fix the problems we have observed with systems in the past? Start new and fresh? Would we continue down a path which leaves us bored and with nothing really new.. moving eventually as something that is left in the past.. While others pursue something in the now.. and familiar to what they are using...

The industry itself has changed from instant messengers like yahoo and Windows Live to texting and mobile phones... Internet usage through these devices... in many ways gateway devices which can lead to the need to obtain something new.. products will tend to appeal to these users and need to be something that suits their needs, today not in the yester-year... Though many of us hail from days of DOS command prompts... It has developed into products which we use in our everyday lives, replacing appliances which we do not need anymore.. All of the things come about through supply and demand,, or vice versa.. people make money this way and continue to do what they know and love by taking that next step forward.

The internet is full of people from all walks of life, conditions, problems, and traumas.. People from different environments and from different ethnicities an countries... as well as levels of knowledge.. On that internet ALL of these people post.. Who is going to read it.. is it going to go viral.. what tends to stir the pot the most.. What is your tagline today... How do any of us survive in this see and are our voices heard.. Do we seek answers or only justification in realization through others? It can be controversial.. paranoid.. appalling... We seek each other just as we would do in real life and with fear. and need.. Just like any animal.. The basis of psyche of all of us regardless.. Some of those ideas are shaped by others but are we really looking to an authority in the matter.. How does it really work.. and what really happened.. We can become mentally depraved for what we seek.. and we van also grow from the proper input.. but what do we see the most of in life.. we reflect it.. Understanding people here is much the way we should in life.. We try to compartmentalize it but we should not... Gathering information, seeing what we find and understanding the hidden cryptic truth in it all is what is to be done.. but not in the sense that it means we are searching for the conspiracy.. But more like what simple truth is being missed in all of what is being observed..

Statements, opinions all of it can be made... We can choose to do what we want... It is how we choose to understand the world around us to be able to make those decisions that sets us apart.. With all of this fear of one another, distrust and always trying to survive by holding on to what we have, inside and out... There are effects which keeps us from getting to the next level.. whichever direction that may be in our freedom.. and in what we are after.. but being careful how we sway this world can be important, if we have it, to even be right within it... Else we shape something which tears it apart...

You can apply that effect to many things.. business.. computing.. an industry... Competitors... even emotional results of success and failure..

There have been a lot in years past.. that has happened to many people.. raids.. Internet shutdown.. countries overthrown... Even wars on piracy and sharing.. bordering on infringement of human rights and civil unrest... in some ways we are glad some of it occurs... in others we fight for our freedoms still. People trying to shape the internet to control it for financial gain without the human factor... Companies trying own everything you even buy afterward.. Madness makes us crazy..

Somehow we have to heal. we have to stick it out there again.. We have to get past our trauma..

We have to see it laid out for ourselves in reality to trust it and we have expand our knowledge to do so..

[steven36]

How NSA access was built into Windows

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/5/5263/1.html

Its been said that NSA Built Back Door In All Windows Software by 1999.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/microsoft-programmed-in-nsa-backdoor-in-windows-by-1999.html

In the 90s all i did was chase women and party i could had care less about computers those was the good old days for me . I'm a generation x'er and proud of it.

But every version of windows there this same scare posted about you better watch out its got a backdoor . If you this paranoid switch to Linux and implement the paranoid guide .



XP Antispy.org


Microsoft denies it built 'backdoor' in Windows 7

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2521889/security0/microsoft-denies-it-built--backdoor--in-windows-7.html

NSA Backdoor Exploit in Windows 8 Uncovered

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/22/nsa-windows-8-exploit/

And every time people are more paranoid . According to research backdoors been in computers since windows 98 . But i been on since 2001 and no government spook has bothered me so it seems to me people are over reacting. ;)

[dMog]

if the nsa actually did this...do you not think that they also do this with linux and apple...get real ...any flavour of paranoia is just just so dumbass

[steven36]

if the nsa actually did this...do you not think that they also do this with linux and apple...get real ...any flavour of paranoia is just just so dumbass

Linux hopes to get more users from all this paranoia about windows

This right here proves it .

Linux Foundation releases PARANOID internal infosec guide

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/08/31/harden_like_linux_foundation/

[funkyy]

When people cling to the past, then they are mentally old.

Kalju, I love nostalgia!!! I'm not saying that I will NEVER change to Win 7 (for example), but I will do it when I want, because I want...not because other people coerce me!!! :D :D :D

[edwardecl]

I would not recommend anyone use a system that phones home without asking you, and auto update with unspecified patches. Why would anyone put their trust in a company that has a bad track record as Microsoft.

If you think you can firewall it even with an external firewall you are an idiot who does not know how firewalls work, unless you block everything going out you can't be sure what will happen.

For example you could try to firewall all of Microsofts host names and IP address associated with it, all Microsoft would have to do is make a mandatory patch for something and use that to update where it sends stuff (new ips, new hosts) and your firewall would be useless, if you leave your system unpatched then you are potentially vulnerable to new attacks for other people.

I mean we all know there are some horrendous backdoors in Windows, but at least you can avoid them yourself as they require an outside connection coming in, but with something that actively seeks to connect to an external server what do you do?

[haxzion]

I would still prefer a lightweight linux distribution like Lubuntu than staying with Win XP.

Dont get me wrong windows xp was great back in the day but now its a dead os.

[steven36]

I would not recommend anyone use a system that phones home without asking you, and auto update with unspecified patches. Why would anyone put their trust in a company that has a bad track record as Microsoft. If you think you can firewall it even with an external firewall you are an idiot who does not know how firewalls work, unless you block everything going out you can't be sure what will happen. For example you could try to firewall all of Microsofts host names and IP address associated with it, all Microsoft would have to do is make a mandatory patch for something and use that to update where it sends stuff (new ips, new hosts) and your firewall would be useless, if you leave your system unpatched then you are potentially vulnerable to new attacks for other people. I mean we all know there are some horrendous backdoors in Windows, but at least you can avoid them yourself as they require an outside connection coming in, but with something that actively seeks to connect to an external server what do you do?

My firewall has and ip sniffer and I block off everything but windows updates and system . this all my firewall allows by default and Its pretty bad in windows 10 but like CODYQX4 said Microsoft is not God .I dont block iips i block the call out points thereself because ips can change but with call out points the worse thing they can do is add new ones witch will be be auto blocked too.

My firewall dont allow nothing but system witch you have to have to get on the internet and windows updates . I could disable windows updates but Im not anything else I have to be the one who allows it trough . I dont do what others do . I do as what I know is most effective .

[CPowell46]

Steven36 says XP is "obsolete". It could be considered "obsolete" only if later versions did something of value that XP doesn't. They don't.

Amigaspace implies that later versions work faster and more efficiently. They don't. His assertion that "If 7, 8 and 10 were less efficient than XP, there would be no Microsoft today" ignores the fact that, to many tens of millions of users, newer = better, period. The fact that Microsoft has earned staggering sums by selling users new systems that gave them nothing of value that they didn't already have, tells us only that many, many users are ignorant and/or irrational.

[steven36]

Steven36 says XP is "obsolete". It could be considered "obsolete" only if later versions did something of value that XP doesn't. They don't.

Amigaspace implies that later versions work faster and more efficiently. They don't. His assertion that "If 7, 8 and 10 were less efficient than XP, there would be no Microsoft today" ignores the fact that, to many tens of millions of users, newer = better, period. The fact that Microsoft has earned staggering sums by selling users new systems that gave them nothing of value that they didn't already have, tells us only that many, many users are ignorant and/or irrational.

I used XP longer than a lot younger people have been online I didn't update to windows 7 tell like 2010 and guess what I didn't have to buy it then so that's a lame excuse . Sooner or latter you're PC gives up the ghost and you want a new one that can handle the latest technology such as games and play x264 ,x265 HD videos . And as far as Linux and XP Some people would just rather play New games pc ... than whatever you do on your's :P

it is "obsolete' for what i use a pc for. mostly I got bored with the just talking about software and testing it when i updated to windows 7 then 8.1 now win 10.

[CPowell46]

I develop and run FORTRAN programs for engineering and scientific calculations. And I can just hear people who don't know any better saying, "You'd expect someone who's still using XP to use FORTRAN." The fact is that for serious engineering, scientific, and mathematical work, there's still no better language than FORTRAN.

[steven36]

I develop and run FORTRAN programs for engineering and scientific calculations. And I can just hear people who don't know any better saying, "You'd expect someone who's still using XP to use FORTRAN." The fact is that for serious engineering, scientific, and mathematical work, there's still no better language than FORTRAN.

Sounds like you still use XP for work and no play , Now days many people who used computers for everyday things like surfing the web or listening to a song switched to phones . That's why theres more people on phones than they are computers now . Phones can do just about what XP done for them back in the day.

[Amigaspace]

Steven36 says XP is "obsolete". It could be considered "obsolete" only if later versions did something of value that XP doesn't. They don't.

Amigaspace implies that later versions work faster and more efficiently. They don't. His assertion that "If 7, 8 and 10 were less efficient than XP, there would be no Microsoft today" ignores the fact that, to many tens of millions of users, newer = better, period. The fact that Microsoft has earned staggering sums by selling users new systems that gave them nothing of value that they didn't already have, tells us only that many, many users are ignorant and/or irrational.

You have a point there, but you are ignoring Vista. Users are ignorant, but not completely so and not all of them. Vista was less efficient than XP and we all remember what happened there. Just imagine what would happen if 7 was worse than Vista, and 10 was worse than all previous Windows versions. Newer=better, period ? Not really - it does have to be actually better, too.

[davmil]

The reason is very simple - their systems do not work with other software, are compatible only with XP.

And of course, it's easy to just not change. If you aren't adventurous where you go and aggressive with what you do you'll never notice as long as you use FFox. XP will hang around until the Pentium based chips supporting just aren't up to the task anymore. By then, Win10 on an Intel i5 will be in the $300 neighborhood and that'll last another 20 years.

[Israeli_Eagle]

How NSA access was built into Windows

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/5/5263/1.html

Its been said that NSA Built Back Door In All Windows Software by 1999.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/microsoft-programmed-in-nsa-backdoor-in-windows-by-1999.html

In the 90s all i did was chase women and party i could had care less about computers those was the good old days for me . I'm a generation x'er and proud of it.

But every version of windows there this same scare posted about you better watch out its got a backdoor . If you this paranoid switch to Linux and implement the paranoid guide .

XP Antispy.org

Microsoft denies it built 'backdoor' in Windows 7

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2521889/security0/microsoft-denies-it-built--backdoor--in-windows-7.html

NSA Backdoor Exploit in Windows 8 Uncovered

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/22/nsa-windows-8-exploit/

And every time people are more paranoid . According to research backdoors been in computers since windows 98 . But i been on since 2001 and no government spook has bothered me so it seems to me people are over reacting. ;)

All is true, but...

- Windows 7 was easy to block it (settings, registry, firewall)

- Windows 8 become only ugly and a bit bigger backdoor, but still easy to block.

- But Windows 10 is a different generation... So far impossible!!

[DLord]

Windows XP users can move to Linux, sticking with XP is a very dangerous game.

Easier said that done. Looking at the Linux's market share, you can easily find out that it is not an ideal OS, especially for Windows users. Lets not forget Linux's differences and shortcomings in comparison to Windows, even good old XP.

[CODYQX4]

Pure, unadulterated balderdash. It's been almost 17 months since Microsoft ended "support" for XP. Isn't it about time the dreaded Hacker Hordes attacked?

I've been using XP since shortly after it was released. I've installed no updates since SP3, and I've never had any malware problems. I have a lot more confidence in any decent antivirus software than in Microsoft updates!

For purely subjective reasons, I dislike 7. The less said about Vista and 8, the better. As for 10, the jury is still out. But all versions past XP use ludicrous amounts of disk space and RAM, and give me not one single thing I want that XP doesn't give me. I make my programs as compact and efficient as I can--why should I use bloatware that others have written? Yes, I have the disk space and RAM, but it's a matter of principle.

Using more disk space and RAM doesn't automatically qualify as "bloat". These things grow for a reason: for software to use them for faster, and more efficient operation (well, mostly RAM anyway). No one classifies programs using faster CPU's as bloatware, yet RAM and disk space keep getting the hit.

Agreed, Windows is hardly the more efficient OS out there but that includes XP, too. It uses less RAM/disk space because it's old, not because it's more efficient. If 7, 8 and 10 were less efficient than XP, there would be no Microsoft today.

My OS is happy to give Chrome 10GB of RAM and use 12 on straight up caching. But as long as performance is good, let it. If I sit at 5% RAM, I'm wasting 32GB for nothing.

Also only kids & noobs would ever use Chrome... :D

Says the noob who thinks the OS is some magical piece of "assembly" that can bypass any and all means of security on a whim.

... and what's the alternative, the laggy, bloated, unstable mess that is Firefox?

[Israeli_Eagle]

Pure, unadulterated balderdash. It's been almost 17 months since Microsoft ended "support" for XP. Isn't it about time the dreaded Hacker Hordes attacked?

I've been using XP since shortly after it was released. I've installed no updates since SP3, and I've never had any malware problems. I have a lot more confidence in any decent antivirus software than in Microsoft updates!

For purely subjective reasons, I dislike 7. The less said about Vista and 8, the better. As for 10, the jury is still out. But all versions past XP use ludicrous amounts of disk space and RAM, and give me not one single thing I want that XP doesn't give me. I make my programs as compact and efficient as I can--why should I use bloatware that others have written? Yes, I have the disk space and RAM, but it's a matter of principle.

Using more disk space and RAM doesn't automatically qualify as "bloat". These things grow for a reason: for software to use them for faster, and more efficient operation (well, mostly RAM anyway). No one classifies programs using faster CPU's as bloatware, yet RAM and disk space keep getting the hit.

Agreed, Windows is hardly the more efficient OS out there but that includes XP, too. It uses less RAM/disk space because it's old, not because it's more efficient. If 7, 8 and 10 were less efficient than XP, there would be no Microsoft today.

My OS is happy to give Chrome 10GB of RAM and use 12 on straight up caching. But as long as performance is good, let it. If I sit at 5% RAM, I'm wasting 32GB for nothing.

Also only kids & noobs would ever use Chrome... :D

Says the noob who thinks the OS is some magical piece of "assembly" that can bypass any and all means of security on a whim.

... and what's the alternative, the laggy, bloated, unstable mess that is Firefox?

Firstly you can test the ESR version, really totally stable.

And... Firefox is usually only as stable as the user. B)

[RYU]

I develop and run FORTRAN programs for engineering and scientific calculations. And I can just hear people who don't know any better saying, "You'd expect someone who's still using XP to use FORTRAN." The fact is that for serious engineering, scientific, and mathematical work, there's still no better language than FORTRAN.

Sounds like you still use XP for work and no play , Now days many people who used computers for everyday things like surfing the web or listening to a song switched to phones . That's why theres more people on phones than they are computers now . Phones can do just about what XP done for them back in the day.

still using XP since 2001 and I hate use my IPhone 6+ for listening music or surfing the web.

[edwardecl]

 

I would not recommend anyone use a system that phones home without asking you, and auto update with unspecified patches. Why would anyone put their trust in a company that has a bad track record as Microsoft. If you think you can firewall it even with an external firewall you are an idiot who does not know how firewalls work, unless you block everything going out you can't be sure what will happen. For example you could try to firewall all of Microsofts host names and IP address associated with it, all Microsoft would have to do is make a mandatory patch for something and use that to update where it sends stuff (new ips, new hosts) and your firewall would be useless, if you leave your system unpatched then you are potentially vulnerable to new attacks for other people. I mean we all know there are some horrendous backdoors in Windows, but at least you can avoid them yourself as they require an outside connection coming in, but with something that actively seeks to connect to an external server what do you do?

My firewall has and ip sniffer and I block off everything but windows updates and system . this all my firewall allows by default and Its pretty bad in windows 10 but like CODYQX4 said Microsoft is not God .I dont block iips i block the call out points thereself because ips can change but with call out points the worse thing they can do is add new ones witch will be be auto blocked too.

My firewall dont allow nothing but system witch you have to have to get on the internet and windows updates . I could disable windows updates but Im not anything else I have to be the one who allows it trough . I dont do what others do . I do as what I know is most effective .

Not really understanding what your are saying, so you operate a whitelist rather than a blacklist? Not a thing most are willing to do as maintaining a whitelist that big would be horrendous. As for the packet sniffing, correct me if I'm wrong but don't Microsoft use HTTPS protocol to send data back therefore that would be useless, unless you disallow all encrypt data.

Sounds like too much of a pain in the arse to set up and maintain, rather just stick to an operating system with no spyware in them.

[steven36]

 

I would not recommend anyone use a system that phones home without asking you, and auto update with unspecified patches. Why would anyone put their trust in a company that has a bad track record as Microsoft. If you think you can firewall it even with an external firewall you are an idiot who does not know how firewalls work, unless you block everything going out you can't be sure what will happen. For example you could try to firewall all of Microsofts host names and IP address associated with it, all Microsoft would have to do is make a mandatory patch for something and use that to update where it sends stuff (new ips, new hosts) and your firewall would be useless, if you leave your system unpatched then you are potentially vulnerable to new attacks for other people. I mean we all know there are some horrendous backdoors in Windows, but at least you can avoid them yourself as they require an outside connection coming in, but with something that actively seeks to connect to an external server what do you do?

My firewall has and ip sniffer and I block off everything but windows updates and system . this all my firewall allows by default and Its pretty bad in windows 10 but like CODYQX4 said Microsoft is not God .I dont block iips i block the call out points thereself because ips can change but with call out points the worse thing they can do is add new ones witch will be be auto blocked too.

My firewall dont allow nothing but system witch you have to have to get on the internet and windows updates . I could disable windows updates but Im not anything else I have to be the one who allows it trough . I dont do what others do . I do as what I know is most effective .

Not really understanding what your are saying, so you operate a whitelist rather than a blacklist? Not a thing most are willing to do as maintaining a whitelist that big would be horrendous. As for the packet sniffing, correct me if I'm wrong but don't Microsoft use HTTPS protocol to send data back therefore that would be useless, unless you disallow all encrypt data.

Sounds like too much of a pain in the arse to set up and maintain, rather just stick to an operating system with no spyware in them.

If was very easy to setup and it maintains itself .

I develop and run FORTRAN programs for engineering and scientific calculations. And I can just hear people who don't know any better saying, "You'd expect someone who's still using XP to use FORTRAN." The fact is that for serious engineering, scientific, and mathematical work, there's still no better language than FORTRAN.

Sounds like you still use XP for work and no play , Now days many people who used computers for everyday things like surfing the web or listening to a song switched to phones . That's why theres more people on phones than they are computers now . Phones can do just about what XP done for them back in the day.

still using XP since 2001 and I hate use my IPhone 6+ for listening music or surfing the web.

That's the thing most of these people who are over paranoid about Windows and Tells us not to use windows 10 most owns phones that we know for a fact the government taps and its more insecure than any PC. They need to practice what they preach .

How NSA access was built into Windows

http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/5/5263/1.html

Its been said that NSA Built Back Door In All Windows Software by 1999.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/microsoft-programmed-in-nsa-backdoor-in-windows-by-1999.html

In the 90s all i did was chase women and party i could had care less about computers those was the good old days for me . I'm a generation x'er and proud of it.

But every version of windows there this same scare posted about you better watch out its got a backdoor . If you this paranoid switch to Linux and implement the paranoid guide .

XP Antispy.org

Microsoft denies it built 'backdoor' in Windows 7

http://www.computerworld.com/article/2521889/security0/microsoft-denies-it-built--backdoor--in-windows-7.html

NSA Backdoor Exploit in Windows 8 Uncovered

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/08/22/nsa-windows-8-exploit/

And every time people are more paranoid . According to research backdoors been in computers since windows 98 . But i been on since 2001 and no government spook has bothered me so it seems to me people are over reacting. ;)

All is true, but...

- Windows 7 was easy to block it (settings, registry, firewall)

- Windows 8 become only ugly and a bit bigger backdoor, but still easy to block.

- But Windows 10 is a different generation... So far impossible!!

Really if the NSA was so great and other countries spies were so great why they needed to ask Google and Microsoft for people's email records to solve crimes? . if big bother NSA was up in you're computer like you and others claim they would not need this kind of info.

Fact is only time I ever heard of M$ giving info to the government was people who were using there services like Skype and there Email and these people committed crimes bad enough for the Government ask for the info. 1.5 billion people uses computers unless you done something very bad they are not worried about you .

Only time I ever even heard M$ taking people to court for pirating there programs were people who were running big pirating operations . They dont even worry with people who activate there programs 1 or 2 times .

So seems everything is really blown out the water there no facts that M$ is going to do :shit:. Got any hardcore proof ? :wut: