Start8 for Windows 8 goes final

[eddy315west]

i got a patch im working on right now. just testing it out to make sure it works correctly before releasing ! then ima make a quick nfo and instructions to go along with it!

and i will share it with the community!

Hello RobrPatty make sure to visit the developers section in ur sig , it will be there by the end of tonight hopefully ! lol !!!

[RobrPatty]

i got a patch im working on right now. just testing it out to make sure it works correctly before releasing ! then ima make a quick nfo and instructions to go along with it!

and i will share it with the community!

Hello RobrPatty make sure to visit the developers section in ur sig , it will be there by the end of tonight hopefully ! lol !!!

Sure will check it out. What's this patch for?

[eddy315west]

to get it activated im working on it right now with pmr

[kien_vip]

to get it activated im working on it right now with pmr

looking forward to hearing your answer

[eddy315west]

scroll down for new info

Staff Note:

Members are reminded to respect copyrights. As such, any links or posts containing illegal content are not permitted. This includes and is not limited to cracks, keygens, serials and "licensed" software materials. Members can share such items via the "Sharecode" system.

[GRiM]

You guys love Windows 8 and Metro don't you? What if I tell you that next version of Windows, Windows 9, will have no desktop whatsoever? Yes, there's a strong chance M$ will switch to Metro full on, Desktop is given to us like a rich guy throws cents at a beggar. And why will this happen? Because of the Windows 8 adapters.

Even if we use it, in general, the OS has to fail, and if the forward looking geeks use it, the Start8 download counter has to go high, because it's going to decide the final future of desktop computers. If not stopped, in a bid to become like Apple, MS will kill the root of computing.

Dude, all the "desktop" is a screen with some shortcuts on. You could create your own app very simply to do the exact same functionality and have that linked in start screen/menu same as current desktop app is.

If you dont want Win8/Metro etc then stay on Win7, Its your choice you dont "have" to upgrade, nobody is forcing you.

[DKT27]

Dude, all the "desktop" is a screen with some shortcuts on. You could create your own app very simply to do the exact same functionality and have that linked in start screen/menu same as current desktop app is.

If you dont want Win8/Metro etc then stay on Win7, Its your choice you dont "have" to upgrade, nobody is forcing you.

Nope. I'm not talking only about "desktop". The whole architecture of Windows is based on the desktop. And by no means the so called desktop is an app like Window 8 shows. It's rather opposite, the Metro is an app inserted into the Windows. All the softwares, games, etc. stuff is based on the desktop architecture, again, in addition to whole Windows itself. Metro on other hand, is totally new architecture, only runs softwares made in WinRT, games will have to be designed in WinRT to work, etc. And the desktop architecture, introduced and optimized right from Windows 3.0 or something, may cease to exist in Windows 9. All the softwares, games, optimizations, won't work in next Windows. Why? Because MS sees future only on mobile side development and user interface.

Why Microsoft Windows became what it is? It was because of it's GUI, looks, ease, softwares and later, user support. Windows 8 Metro has bad GUI and looks fugly, when doing things, it's no way to ease stuff, it won't have large user support as it's going to fail. As for softwares, Microsoft is pushing hard to devs to make apps for Metro, but so far, I've heard about how the apps are numbered and how most of the apps on the marketplace sucks. I'm hearing news about MS inspiring devs, but I haven't yet heard a single dev saying that he loves making apps for Windows 8. Even companies like Mozilla and Google are unhappy about how they have limited the software access. Talking about limits, I do believe that Metro apps cannot be installed outside the Windows Marketplace? Forget that, if a person wants his app sent to Marketplace, like Apple's walled garden, MS will first check then allow a app to be passed. Nothing but monopoly will happen there, I'm already hearing news about MS rejecting apps from entering the marketplace. Then comes ads, we already have metro shoved in the face in fullscreen, the 26 inch monitors (avg) will now also have bigass ads in the softwares.

True, nobody's forcing me. But it has somehow become a user psychology, that if MS made another Windows, one have to upgrade. If Apple made another iPhone, the old iPhone is somehow ugly now. If 4G is available, 3G is somehow retro. And to be honest, wrong as it may sound, life has to move on. In a fast going life, one cannot, especially good in the field, be stagnant in one place. One has to adapt things that he thinks can be adaptable.

By no means, I'm saying that Windows 8 as an OS is bad. I like the ribbon explorer, performance optimizations, security enhancements and other changes. It's just that I'm not liking where Microsoft is going at. Microsoft only seems to be carring about mobiles (phones and tablets). The metro, initially, wasn't even made fit for the mouse, with only targetting the touchscreens.

[dcs18]

Moreover, to be under an impression that the transition from Windows 7 to Windows 8 is an upgrade is nothing but an exercise in self-delusion.

[cyberber]

eddy315west I tested your patch but it didn't work for me. I followed every single instruction.

[PepeCZ]

assuming ur doing a clean install follow directions it involves creating firewall rules :) Takes less then 5 minutes to do . if you cant do it then buy the app !

or wait for patcher! should be released today cuz couldnt finish it last night due to some matters, also testing another activation method :)

let me know if it works for ya

Site: http://www34.zippyshare.com/

Sharecode: v/75477915/file.html ^[?]

Staff Note:

Members are reminded to respect copyrights. As such, any links or posts containing illegal content are not permitted. This includes and is not limited to cracks, keygens, serials and "licensed" software materials. Members can share such items via the "Sharecode" system.

eddy315west I tested your patch but it didn't work for me. I followed every single instruction.

Hi,I tested this too but didn't work me as a user cyberber :/ Any news?

[GRiM]

Dude, all the "desktop" is a screen with some shortcuts on. You could create your own app very simply to do the exact same functionality and have that linked in start screen/menu same as current desktop app is.

If you dont want Win8/Metro etc then stay on Win7, Its your choice you dont "have" to upgrade, nobody is forcing you.

Nope. I'm not talking only about "desktop". The whole architecture of Windows is based on the desktop. And by no means the so called desktop is an app like Window 8 shows. It's rather opposite, the Metro is an app inserted into the Windows. All the softwares, games, etc. stuff is based on the desktop architecture, again, in addition to whole Windows itself. Metro on other hand, is totally new architecture, only runs softwares made in WinRT, games will have to be designed in WinRT to work, etc. And the desktop architecture, introduced and optimized right from Windows 3.0 or something, may cease to exist in Windows 9. All the softwares, games, optimizations, won't work in next Windows. Why? Because MS sees future only on mobile side development and user interface.

Why Microsoft Windows became what it is? It was because of it's GUI, looks, ease, softwares and later, user support. Windows 8 Metro has bad GUI and looks fugly, when doing things, it's no way to ease stuff, it won't have large user support as it's going to fail. As for softwares, Microsoft is pushing hard to devs to make apps for Metro, but so far, I've heard about how the apps are numbered and how most of the apps on the marketplace sucks. I'm hearing news about MS inspiring devs, but I haven't yet heard a single dev saying that he loves making apps for Windows 8. Even companies like Mozilla and Google are unhappy about how they have limited the software access. Talking about limits, I do believe that Metro apps cannot be installed outside the Windows Marketplace? Forget that, if a person wants his app sent to Marketplace, like Apple's walled garden, MS will first check then allow a app to be passed. Nothing but monopoly will happen there, I'm already hearing news about MS rejecting apps from entering the marketplace. Then comes ads, we already have metro shoved in the face in fullscreen, the 26 inch monitors (avg) will now also have bigass ads in the softwares.

True, nobody's forcing me. But it has somehow become a user psychology, that if MS made another Windows, one have to upgrade. If Apple made another iPhone, the old iPhone is somehow ugly now. If 4G is available, 3G is somehow retro. And to be honest, wrong as it may sound, life has to move on. In a fast going life, one cannot, especially good in the field, be stagnant in one place. One has to adapt things that he thinks can be adaptable.

By no means, I'm saying that Windows 8 as an OS is bad. I like the ribbon explorer, performance optimizations, security enhancements and other changes. It's just that I'm not liking where Microsoft is going at. Microsoft only seems to be carring about mobiles (phones and tablets). The metro, initially, wasn't even made fit for the mouse, with only targetting the touchscreens.

Ok I see what you mean but I seriously do not think that microsoft would just go completley metro on the desktop OS. If they did I think it would be like what they have done on tablet versions, ie the "RT" and "Pro" versions where RT only has Metro UI and the Pro has both desktop and Metro. I know Rt is for ARM devices but what I mean is they may go down route of having a Metro and a Desktop+Metro OS.

M$ has made allot of mistake and been late to the market with the new generation of mobiles/tablets and they are now making up for it by creating a new eco system and unifying it across the devices like PC/Mobile/Tablet/Console. They want to create a similar experience across these so people feel comfertable when buying the other devices.

Even on Windows 8/9 we will still see desktop devs aswell as Metro devs.

[phillthedrill]

assuming ur doing a clean install follow directions it involves creating firewall rules :) Takes less then 5 minutes to do . if you cant do it then buy the app !

or wait for patcher! should be released today cuz couldnt finish it last night due to some matters, also testing another activation method :)

let me know if it works for ya

Site: http://www34.zippyshare.com/

Sharecode: v/75477915/file.html ^[?]

Staff Note:

Members are reminded to respect copyrights. As such, any links or posts containing illegal content are not permitted. This includes and is not limited to cracks, keygens, serials and "licensed" software materials. Members can share such items via the "Sharecode" system.

It keeps deleting the .bin file everytime you open the start8.

[eddy315west]

if you have never installed the app before on windows 8 heres the patch for start8

Site: www43.zippyshare.com

Sharecode: testing again post new link soon ^[?]

Read NFO On How TO Install

VirusTotal Result Site: https://www.virustot...8706b/analysis/

Sharecode: 

*note* codefort is just something used to hide the actual code

As for people saying instructions don't work do a fresh install or run patch and as admin reboot and enjoy

let me know if it still doesnt work for ya !

[House_maniac]

if you have never installed the app before on windows 8 heres the patch for start8

Site: http://www43.zippyshare.com

Sharecode: /v/58906778/file.html ^[?]

Read NFO On How TO Install

VirusTotal Result Site: https://www.virustot...8706b/analysis/

Sharecode: 

*note* codefort is just something used to hide the actual code

As for people saying instructions don't work do a fresh install or run patch and as admin reboot and enjoy

let me know if it still doesnt work for ya !

file does not exist file has been deleted from zippyshare man

[eddy315west]

i just checked link and its not deleted .original post fixed.

[House_maniac]

ok what happened is that if you click on the zippyshare link first its redirects you to the www. have copy paste yours with www43.works now :) trying your patch will let you know :)

[PepeCZ]

I download file V2, no problem with downloading this file.

Now I'm going to try and write if it will work.

Only if I could ask what this patch does? I would be interested in a chance to activate it manually without patche.

In any case, thank you for work.

[House_maniac]

patch didnt work for me :s

[PepeCZ]

I tested now and patch didn't work me as a user House_maniac :/

[eddy315west]

I download file V2, no problem with downloading this file.

Now I'm going to try and write if it will work.

Only if I could ask what this patch does? I would be interested in a chance to activate it manually without patche.

In any case, thank you for work.

patch just creates firewall rules that need to be in place and installs the activation bin filewhere it suppposed to go.

you ppl still having problems go grab uninstall tool from the makers site or wherever you want and uninstall start8 with this program.

then manually navigate to C:\ProgramData and delete the entire stardock folder and then retry

if you continue to still have issues either buy the app or install teamviewer send me a pm and i can help you .

testing again works for me flawless but im running in vmware ima test on somebody else pc and see for myself and hopefully i can fix any problems so ill keep u posted

update

reworking the entire patch as its working for some and some not

[eddy315west]

*update*

patch isnt working for version start8 1.0 as it should be. so were *working on it *

so ive uploaded beta .90 so you do have a a full 100% working start menu till i fix the issue with patch for start8menu 1.0

for beta .90

just disconnect internet

switch computer date to august 1,2012

run patch or manually create rules in instructions

and then change date back to current date and connect back to internet

Site: http://www.datafilehost.com

Sharecode: /download-0331cd33.html ^[?]

[a2ms]

You guys love Windows 8 and Metro don't you? What if I tell you that next version of Windows, Windows 9, will have no desktop whatsoever? Yes, there's a strong chance M$ will switch to Metro full on.....

[...]

Even if we use it, in general, the OS has to fail,

I think your fear is valid but quite unlikley. The Metro SDK is not as nearly as powerful as desktop. It is based mostly on web services, and while it is true that it is expected that lots of applications get cosnumed. This should be the same stupid application people use in iOS or android. Games, to-do list, app versions of websites, some other small tools.

Meanwhile the really powerful apps like the Adobe Suite, heck even Visual Studio, many CAD programs, Matlab, etc.. will continue to be desktop, because right now there is no other way. And could you imagine Windows Server just being metro? They won't risk it that much with businesses.

So as annoying as the UAC was when Vista was introduced probably the next version of Windows shall be more polished. But I do think if people adapt is for a good reason, and if not, then sales will sink and then MS has to do something, don't you think?

[DKT27]

You guys love Windows 8 and Metro don't you? What if I tell you that next version of Windows, Windows 9, will have no desktop whatsoever? Yes, there's a strong chance M$ will switch to Metro full on.....

[...]

Even if we use it, in general, the OS has to fail,

I think your fear is valid but quite unlikley. The Metro SDK is not as nearly as powerful as desktop. It is based mostly on web services, and while it is true that it is expected that lots of applications get cosnumed. This should be the same stupid application people use in iOS or android. Games, to-do list, app versions of websites, some other small tools.

Meanwhile the really powerful apps like the Adobe Suite, heck even Visual Studio, many CAD programs, Matlab, etc.. will continue to be desktop, because right now there is no other way. And could you imagine Windows Server just being metro? They won't risk it that much with businesses.

So as annoying as the UAC was when Vista was introduced probably the next version of Windows shall be more polished. But I do think if people adapt is for a good reason, and if not, then sales will sink and then MS has to do something, don't you think?

Your point is very good. Kinda convinces me. :)

But, we are moving towards more better ARM apps, like games are being constantly ported to Android. The positive thing about Microsoft is that, computers are no tablets or mobiles. As in, computers are power beasts, beasts that allow devs to write powerful apps. If you see GTA like games ported to mobiles, Adobe has no reason not to port something like Photoshop-mini.

Microsoft have themselves hinted that they are using PCs as the leverage for the success of their mobiles. They have also said that Windows itself doesn't make them money anymore, it's only Office at the moment. The unification of PCs, Mobiles, Tablets is only done so that people adapt MS mobiles (talking about the OS of course). Good as it may seem, for me it's a bad/immoral business tactic. Like giving a guy some cocaine / heroine for cheap or free so that he gets addicted and keeps buying the same from you.

If I remember correctly, Microsoft also tried tyrant approach when they announced that new Visual Studio Free (?) won't be able to write normal desktop apps, and can write only Metro apps. This move backfired as it was protested all over the developer world.

Thing about UAC was/is, like Metro, it's made with general users in mind (though no one likes either of them) but the most positive thing about UAC was that there was an disable option.

So the bottom line is, I'm still concerned about Microsoft's stance (more than hackable Windows 8 ), a company which can do the above as I mentioned, which I'll simply say is totally out of it's mind, can do anything, even remove desktop totally for that matter.

[eltigre]

hey....can't wait to test your patch

[marke68]

You know what.. I'm using Windows 8 Pro x64 for a few weeks now but I don't miss the Start Menu at all... when I need something I just go to Metro and there it is, if not I just start typing in what I want...

When you want more options by the way, go to your left corner below and click the right mouse button...

So.. who needs a Start Menu... I don't.. ^_^

I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks this is a good OS,i think it's the change in the way you do things that's putting people off even though you only have to rest your mouse in the left hand corner and left click and bam all your shortcuts are there.

Give it a weeks trial and then see what you think rather than dismissing it entierly because the start button is missing,to me it's a stremlined version of Win 7. :)