Matrix Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 The big picture: The GPU industry has been dominated by two major names for the better part of two decades but that could soon be changing. Intel, as you’ve likely heard, is working on its own discrete GPUs and now we’re hearing of a fourth potential contender. Jingjia Micro, short for Changsha Jingjia Microelectronics Co., Ltd, is a Chinese vendor that has reportedly started researching its next GPU. Known as the JM9271, the chip will allegedly be as fast as Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1080. As Tom’s Hardware highlights, Jingjia Micro got its start in 2006 as a military-civilian integrated company specializing in electric component design and production. The firm is reportedly credited with building China’s first domestic GPU, the JM5400, on a 65nm process. Successive chips were refined significantly and the company found additional success on the 28nm node. Its most recent GPU, the JM7200, offers performance that is equivalent to a GeForce GT 640 but has a TDP of less than 10 watts versus the 50W used by Nvidia’s chip. The firm’s next chips, the JM9231 and JM9271, are already in the works. The former is said to boast performance rivaling Nvidia’s GeForce GTX 1050 while the latter will be closer to the GTX 1080 with a boost clock north of 1,800MHz, 16GB of HBM and support for PCIe 4.0. They won’t be as efficient as Nvidia’s 16nm offerings, however, as they’re still being built on the older 28nm process. TDPs are expected to be in the range of 150W and 200W, respectively, for the JM9231 and the JM9271. VIEW: Original Article. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinite_Vision Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Mach1 said: Jingjia Micro got its start in 2006 as a military-civilian integrated company specializing in electric component design and production. This is the concerning aspect of this news. I won't be installing these GPU in my machine any time soon or at all. They were caught implanting small hardware component into electronic parts. Until they can prove that these hardware are safe from interferences from military and governmental agencies in China, I have to play it safe. It was in another thread that I posted links to some scholarly articles. There is no shape or way that I'm saying Jingjia Micro is doing it. In opinion, I'm going to play it safe. But I would like to see how this GPU perform in the future and hopefully, it is vetted fully that it is not connected to the military or governmental agencies in China. That's why 5G is very contentious right now and rightfully so. It is great news that another player is entering the GPU market and hopefully, we'll get more innovations out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jogs Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 You should know every other country except the US is trying to spy on the people of this world. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 4 hours ago, Infinite_Vision said: Until they can prove that these hardware are safe from interferences from military and governmental agencies in China... Even if they prove that their products are safe, there will always be some people not trusting them. What about the opposite: other countries/companies have to prove that the products are unsafe? Proofs, not just allegations and/or unverifiable facts. Indeed according to Chinese's law, Chinese companies must furnish Chinese government access to its data. What about national security letters and gag orders in another country? Looking forward too to seeing how Chinese made hardwares/softwares perform compare to those from big tech widely used nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinite_Vision Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 On 8/25/2019 at 7:25 AM, mp68terr said: Even if they prove that their products are safe, there will always be some people not trusting them. What about the opposite: other countries/companies have to prove that the products are unsafe? Proofs, not just allegations and/or unverifiable facts. Indeed according to Chinese's law, Chinese companies must furnish Chinese government access to its data. What about national security letters and gag orders in another country? Looking forward too to seeing how Chinese made hardwares/softwares perform compare to those from big tech widely used nowadays. Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-09/new-evidence-of-hacked-supermicro-hardware-found-in-u-s-telecom The problem is that almost all electronic component are made there? Like you stated, they must furnish to Chinese government. Check the link above. And then you add that an organization must be joint venture with a Chinese company to operate there. What other Western countries require this? Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAIC-GM Source: https://nolasia.net/joint-ventures-in-china-advantages-and-disadvantages/ And pretty soon, you will learn that a specific unsecure server was transporting top secure info to secret gmail account.... As someone once said, "We have it all." That's how they got it all. Search CarterHeavyIndustries. Do you have any more questions? source: https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/16/hillary-clinton-emails-cryptic-gmail/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mp68terr Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 5 hours ago, Infinite_Vision said: Source: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-10-09/new-evidence-of-hacked-supermicro-hardware-found-in-u-s-telecom... Got the article from bloomberg (2018.10.09), please check also what Apple, Amazon and SuperMicro said late October "Up until now, all parties accused of being involved have vehemently denied that any evidence has been found. Apple CEO Tim Cook even said, "They need to do that right thing and retract it." US intelligence officials have also not found any evidence to corroborate the story." (https://www.nsaneforums.com/topic/324083-super-micro-begins-its-own-investigation-into-chinese-spy-chips/, source: https://www.techspot.com/news/77032-super-micro-begins-own-investigation-chinese-spy-chips.html). There might have been more recent info about that, I did not see them, but if you heard something please share. Was not speaking about joint venture with a Chinese company, but thanks for the links. Writing about national security letters and gag orders I was referring to US having similar regulations than China: obligation for US companies to cooperate with the US authorities, without these companies having the right to speak about it. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_security_letter, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gag_order). As for Clinton's mails moved to an unsecured server, they did not miraculously move there by themselves or because of a 'bad chip'; someone did it. Yes, as you said, almost all electronic component are made there. If the companies making these components are not trusted then why are these critical chips not made somewhere else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlienForce1 Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 I see an obsession about chinese (and russian) spyware and surveillance , but it`s strange that nobody tells about american global surveillance ... Why should we trust them more ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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