France's Front National (who support the EU's mandatory copyright filters) furious when Youtube's copyright filters kill their channel

[steven36]

On June 20, an EU committee will vote on mandatory copyright filters -- the idea that everything that gets posted to an EU service should be checked for copyright violations by a machine learning system that will decide what gets published and what gets censored.

 

 

These filters don't even exist yet; the closest we come is YouTube's Content ID, which Google created voluntarily, and which is notorious for acts of arbitrary, incorrect censorship. Google spent $60,000,000 building Content ID, so that's the table stakes for any new online service.

 

That's what makes the far right European parties' support of this proposal so weird. The big online platforms have increasingly been deputized to police their users' speech, and right-wing forums were the first casualties of this drive, prompting the right to start its own versions of Twitter, Reddit, etc. They were able to do this, in part, because they didn't have to pony up $60,000,000 for a copyright filter (if you're not politically aligned with the far right, you should still be worried about this: when the FBI classes #BlackLivesMatter as Black Identity Extremists and the US government uses anti-terrorism tactics against the Dakota Access Pipeline protesters, the ability of people with unpopular ideas to start their own services if they are made unwelcome on the big platforms has never been more urgent).

 

In a rare and extremely timely incidence of coincidental providence, one of the largest partners in the far-right block in the EU, France's Front National, just had its YouTube channel "TVLibertés" deleted because Content ID claimed it contained copyright infringement, a claim disputed by FN leader Marine Le Pen, who called it “arbitrary, political, and unilateral."

 

The vote is in THREE DAYS, and if the FN MEPs reverse their positions (they are Marie-Christine Boutonnet @MCBoutonnetFN and Gilles Lebreton @Gilles_Lebreton) then the filters will almost certainly die. If they vote for the radical expansion of the system that just killed their own party's YouTube channel, it will probably pass, to their detriment and the detriment of hundreds of millions of EU internet users.

 

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The broadcast named TVLibertés is gone, described by YouTube as “YouTube has blocked the broadcast of the newscast of Thursday, June 14 for copyright infringement.”

Marine Le Pen was quoted as saying, “This measure is completely false; we can easily assert a right of quotation [to illustrate why the material was well within the law to broadcast]”.

She’s right. Automated upload filters do not take into account when you have a legal right to broadcast copyrighted material for one of the myriad of valid reasons. They will just assume that this such reasons never exist; if nothing else, to make sure that the hosting platform steers clear of any liability. Political messages will be disappeared on mere allegations by a political opponent, just as might have happened here.

 

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[tiliarou]

This political party is a joke !

[dMog]

no ...not a joke...they are a scary and dangerous entity  gaining popularity....

[pc71520]

21 hours ago, tiliarou said:

This political party is a joke !

While Macron is an honest politician

who only tries to bring the French Social Security Network down.

6 hours ago, dMog said:

no ...not a joke...they are a scary and dangerous entity  gaining popularity....

Dangerous for whom? Rothschild, perhaps?

 

-But why has the FN gained such popularity?

Because the French "democratic" parties,

which had governed France for decades,

proved to be eager employees of Rothschild.

[tiliarou]

19 hours ago, pc71520 said:

While Macron is an honest politician

who only tries to bring the French Social Security Network down.

Dangerous for whom? Rothschild, perhaps?

 

-But why has the FN gained such popularity?

Because the French "democratic" parties,

which had governed France for decades,

proved to be eager employees of Rothschild.

Who is speaking about Macron in this article ?

This is not the topic.

 

On 6/20/2018 at 6:39 AM, dMog said:

no ...not a joke...they are a scary and dangerous entity  gaining popularity....

Yes they are dangerous, but since last presidential election they are no muc heard and failed hard to provide any constructive opposition (or more like no opposition at all).

[pc71520]

O.K. the FN is dangerous

while the other French political parties (the "democratic" ones...)

have been ideal for destroying the French Social Security Network.

 

-Listen to what the Highly-Corrupted Media is feeding you.

-Keep voting Traitors who serve nobody but the Bankers.

[steven36]

Who cares? I could care less about poltics in France, this not what this topic is about, it about the fact they got there YouTube channel deleted and got mad about it but they  are for stuff getting deleted , karma coming back on them  is all. Not a comment was on topic past post #2 !

[pc71520]

On 6/23/2018 at 10:32 AM, steven36 said:

Who cares?

Fortunately, some do care...

Especially, when we see our European Nations turning into a multi-"cultural"  .

 

Nationalism/Protectionism will be stronger and stronger

against the proponents of Globalization/N.W.O.

[flitox]

10 hours ago, pc71520 said:

Fortunately, some do care...

Especially, when we see our European Nations turning into a multi-"cultural"  .

 

Nationalism/Protectionism will be stronger and stronger

against the proponents of Globalization/N.W.O.

yet our europeans nations are already multicultural and 100yrs ago, people from other european countries could not stand each othes and having that kind of mentality you're having right now

[knowledge-Spammer]

utube is crazy sometimes with copyrights

[steven36]

1 hour ago, knowledge said:

utube is crazy sometimes with copyrights

A lot artists and creators are moving to Patreon to get paid  because YouTube has been screwing them out of money.

[Archanus]

1 hour ago, knowledge said:

utube is crazy sometimes with copyrights

 

Totally agree with, for that reason a lot of "Utubers" go to Patreon  

[knowledge-Spammer]

Patreon interesting dont utube and google make rules for it so  i mean utube limt the subs and things like that   .u have to be apart with utube partner ?

how do this Patreon   work and y nsane not have ?

[steven36]

27 minutes ago, knowledge said:

Patreon interesting dont utube and google make rules for it so  i mean utube limt the subs and things like that   .u have to be apart with utube partner ?

how do this Patreon   work and y nsane not have ?

Because each person  can charge what they want say if there and indie signer you use to follow on YouTube  they can charge you money too get all there latest albums .

 

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Patreon allows

 

like you to get paid by running a membership business for your fans.

 

A Meaningful Revenue Stream
Fans pay you a subscription amount of their choice in exchange for exclusive experiences & behind-the-scenes content.
Regain Creative Freedom

Predictable income from your patrons means you can create on your terms. No strings attached.
Over $350 million Sent to Creators

An average patron pays more on a monthly basis than consumers pay for Netflix, Spotify, or Amazon Prime.

 People have done made over $350 million in cash switching to it. It's a paid service  fans pay Artist and Creators upfront for there content ..YouTube pays with ads and keep lowering peoples money because different products that Google makes ads for  keep dropping YouTube like files. That why Google also made a paid service on YouTube but this only helps out famous Artist and Creators but Patreon helps the Independents get paid.

[anuraag]

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