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Kaspersky Antivirus Banned by Best Buy Due to Spying Concerns

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Matsuda    2,479
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Kaspersky makes some of the world’s leading security products, but this doesn’t seem to help the Russian vendor in the United States, where the government accused the company of hiding backdoors into its software to help Russia spy on high-profile users.
 

US retailer Best Buy is the latest big name that decided to ban the sale of Kaspersky products due to these concerns, pulling all software solutions developed by the Russian firm from its stores and the website.
 

A company spokesperson was quoted as saying that the whole Kaspersky saga currently includes what they describe as “too many unanswered questions,” with no other specifics offered.
 

But the decision doesn’t come as a big surprise. Earlier this year, it’s been reported that the FBI was approaching companies in the private sector to ban Kaspersky products and to remove them from their systems, as part of a nationwide effort against the Russian company.
 

The whole dispute started in July, when the US government decided to remove Kaspersky from the approved software list, explaining that it’s concerned the firm could collaborate with Russian on spying users.
 

Best Buy allowing customers to get a different antivirus free of charge
 

While Kaspersky denied all the claims and even offered to conduct security audits to prove its software is completely clean, the US government continued its campaign against the firm, pressing companies in both the public and the private sectors to remove the said security products.
 

The most recent accusations come from Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, D-New Hampshire, who revealed in a column in the New York Times that six top intelligence officials, including heads of the CIA and the FBI, voted against the use of Kaspersky software and expressed their concerns regarding possible backdoors that would be used by Russia to spy on users.
 

“Beyond the evidence of direct links between [Eugene] Kaspersky and the Russian government, we cannot ignore the indirect links inherent in doing business in the Russia of President Vladimir Putin, where oligarchs and tycoons have no choice but to cooperate with the Kremlin,” she explained.
 

Users who purchased Kaspersky software from Best Buy and still have valid licenses will be able to replace them with other security products free of charge in the next 45 days.


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mclaren85    380
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Is this some kind of joke? So stupid action, kaspersky is the best.

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They banned it because it wasn't selling and took a dramatic turn :P

 

Why use these services when there's G2A, HRK, some dedicated nsane topic, etc... ?

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Everybody know Bestbuy  work with the feds  and the fbi has spooked  them . I dont really see how its shocking . If you go to other sites and read many people say they would not use Kaspersky  that live in the USA  since this happen do you're  research    . All the fussing in the world want make people from the USA feel safe and it sure want sale the product . 

 

Always opinions from every country in the world but the ones it happen in  dont never change a thing. When people read stuff  like this they panic  and  stop trusting  any antivirus  in general.. Always the same reaction from people  when something gets ban it causes discussions about what should they use and not use  and they are going replace it blah blah blah.

 

The thing is many people dont buy software at Bestbuy but they read it on the internet  were like a 1000 sites post it  and it causes people that dont buy software there not too  want to use it. They sure want gain no  business from the USA  when one site like  startribune post something and a 1000 more sites repost it. It's all over social media and places so the media is not helping Kaspersky there putting fear in peoples minds. 

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LOL. Ban them ALL I say

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I read  over on reddit.com were some said they stop using Kaspersky long before this happen because of stuff in the news before.  In the last few years.  Kaspersky  has had a lot of negative news long before the USA government pulled it from there contracts and  post like this about BestBuy pulling  it  too just shows how people react too this sort of news  ..Fear is a natural reaction  and the Media are the biggest spreaders of it.

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BioHazard    1,254
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I'm going to ban myself from shopping at best buy  :rofl:

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I dont have too ban myself from such places were i live there is no bestbuy  it dont exist in my world and when i use too live near one i never shopped there . Walmart is everywhere its a 100 times bigger than bestbuy  there the most richest company in the USA they also have Kaspersky.  

https://www.walmart.com/browse/electronics/software/kaspersky/3944_3951_443023/YnJhbmQ6S2FzcGVyc2t5

It's amazing how some still live in the 90s and buy software in stores  .  There stuck in a time warp and most people on this site has never helped  out kaspersky in there life they just use trial reset and pirated  keys .

 

For many years my family bought  a family key for KIS but we didn't renew this year and they switch too something else and this was long before all this came out in the news  . Around here we buy our software and computers online . BestBuy helped Kaspersky get rich they sold stuff for Kaspersky for close too 10 years . Kaspersky didn't seem angry about it.

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Kaspersky also confirmed that it had parted ways with Best Buy in an emailed statement.

 

“Kaspersky Lab and Best Buy have suspended their relationship at this time; however, the relationship may be re-evaluated in the future,” the software firm said. “Kaspersky Lab has enjoyed an almost decade-long partnership with Best Buy and its customer base, and the company will continue to offer its industry-leading cybersecurity solutions to consumers through its website and other retailers.”

 

 

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8 hours ago, BioHazard said:

I'm going to ban myself from shopping at best buy  :rofl:

 

You'll be doing yourself a favor! Overtime I have found other brick and mortar or online stores  for the stuff I need which actually costs less! The last thing I bought from Best Buy was an electric kettle from over a year ago! :P

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I'm sure the U.S. Security-software Vendors (i.e. Symantec, Webroot etc.) are having a party.

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17 hours ago, steven36 said:

I dont have too ban myself from such places were i live there is no bestbuy  it dont exist in my world and when i use too live near one i never shopped there . Walmart is everywhere its a 100 times bigger than bestbuy  there the most richest company in the USA they also have Kaspersky.  

https://www.walmart.com/browse/electronics/software/kaspersky/3944_3951_443023/YnJhbmQ6S2FzcGVyc2t5

It's amazing how some still live in the 90s and buy software in stores  .  There stuck in a time warp and most people on this site has never helped  out kaspersky in there life they just use trial reset and pirated  keys .

 

For many years my family bought  a family key for KIS but we didn't renew this year and they switch too something else and this was long before all this came out in the news  . Around here we buy our software and computers online . BestBuy helped Kaspersky get rich they sold stuff for Kaspersky for close too 10 years . Kaspersky didn't seem angry about it.

 

if i was Kaspersky  i say to bestbuy to f...off

10years gone now and for what  lies  people say about Kaspersky

i hope some russian hackers make new virus that  Symantec, Webroot etc. cant fix and maybe Kaspersky  can 

when usa try stops are Security  programs  and yet cant fix there own problems in  Security it show how bad usa are been

1 bestbuy it a scam  they sell  fake things  if u think i lie google bestbuy scam  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bestbuy+scam

if i was Kaspersky  i say just have Kaspersky  for russia  and let everyone  use bs programs like Symantec, Webroot  with the backdoors

 

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7 hours ago, knowledge said:

if i was Kaspersky  i say to bestbuy to f...off

10years gone now and for what  lies  people say about Kaspersky

i hope some russian hackers make new virus that  Symantec, Webroot etc. cant fix and maybe Kaspersky  can 

when usa try stops are Security  programs  and yet cant fix there own problems in  Security it show how bad usa are been

1 bestbuy it a scam  they sell  fake things  if u think i lie google bestbuy scam  https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=bestbuy+scam

if i was Kaspersky  i say just have Kaspersky  for russia  and let everyone  use bs programs like Symantec, Webroot  with the backdoors

 

The ones you named  Symantec and Webroot  have less marketshare  than kaspersky even ..

 

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Symantec: A Simple Explanation For The Decline Of The Consumer Security Segment

 

Symantec's consumer security segment remains the biggest cause of volatility to its growth story.

The rapid decline in demand for AVs needs to be hedged with substantial operating profit in the enterprise division.

This might command the need for a higher risk premium.

As a result, investors need to be more cautious on the bullish side.

 

The uncertainty for investors in Symantec (NASDAQ:SYMC) is the decline of the consumer security segment. At the heart of this segment is the Norton suite of security services, driven by the Norton Antivirus.

As explained in my earlier article, the deficiency and limitation of traditional AVs have been the reason for this decline.

In light of this, the AV segment of the cyber security industry has been consigned to the back seat. It is expected that PCs running the inbuilt Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) Windows Defender anti-malware solution coupled with the general decline in PC shipments will plant the final nail in the coffin for the AV industry.

Add that to the growing trend of next-generation security solutions and we can say good-bye to Symantec's consumer security division.

Of course, management knows this and I don't think the leadership team is folding its arms. In fact, if there is any sign that management is indeed unconcerned about this, that is enough trigger for all investors to pull their money and find better investments elsewhere.

The death of the Norton Antivirus will be driven by three things:

  • Threat from substitutes
  • Loss of market share to competitors
  • Zero demand

 

I will be testing each of the hypothesis stated above to model the demise of Norton after which I will determine how much risk is too much to stomach.

 

Threat from Substitutes

Substitutes for antivirus products for cloud, endpoint and mobile security abound in the cyber landscape. We have mobility solutions for data encryption, file integrity, email security and advanced endpoint protection offerings that are marketed with the capabilities to prevent zero days.

These substitutes have continued to pound at the AV market, giving it a bad reputation for its somewhat limited capabilities.

Add to this, the inbuilt windows security solution and we have a compelling case for people never to buy AVs again. Regardless, PCs and mobile devices are consistently getting hacked when unprotected, regardless of the inbuilt security measure as demonstrated by the wave of ransomware attacks that rocked 2016.

This might be an indication that AVs for PCs might not be done yet. However, a Google trend for global interest in AVs proves otherwise.

 

https://s7d6.turboimg.net/sp/42f237b09d94f2428b289b8ca401de49/42079636_14864947848178_rId9.png

 

The straight conclusion here is that AVs are indeed losing market share to substitute next-generation security products.

https://s7d5.turboimg.net/sp/dfeeadabb6416f9291a466824d6364d9/42079636_14864947848178_rId10.png

 

There are a number of players in the AV industry that keep gnawing at Symantec's market share. They include Avast, AVG , MacAfee and Kaspersky.

The table above shows Symantec's most recent (2017) market share according to OPSWAT.

Compared to the result from September 2016 there was a significant market share decline.

 

https://s7d2.turboimg.net/sp/91a3d2a849c3be6239f4e8e8da1a69f5/42079636_14864947848178_rId12.png

 

This indicates that Symantec is indeed losing out on the competitive side.

 

Zero demand

The AV industry is expected to grow at a CAGR of 10% from 2016-2020. I don't see much demand side problem for true innovators that can set themselves apart from competition. And I believe this will only be driven by a strong rebranding of the few players left in the market into mobile-centric and IoT-centric solution providers.

Symantec is already innovating for the future with the recent release of Norton Core, a Wi-Fi solution for connected homes. However, according to the graph highlighted earlier, Symantec seems to be having a hard time stacking up to competitors. This might have driven the continuous expectation of a revenue decline, QoQ.

If Symantec ramps up its product offering and fires up its sales efficiency, there is no reason it won't stabilize market share.

 

 

The consumer security segment = zero, scenario

For the consumer security segment to go to zero, Symantec must have surrendered all its market share (if the AV market still exists) to competitors like Avast and Kaspersky.

 

Since the Lifelock division is under the consumer security division, it also has to record a rapid decline in revenue and in fact perform so woefully that Symantec has no choice but to offload it for consumer security revenue to reach a bottom.

Since the consumer security division is the driver of Symantec's operating profit, this means there will be a huge disaster given Symantec's current debt level. It will have no choice but to command a premium on Bluecoat or go bust.

 

Buying Symantec means buying an experiment that management will sustain operating profit by cross-selling Lifelock and Norton services.

It's hard to believe that Symantec will continue to command a premium on Norton given that most AVs are shifting to freemium plans.

 

https://s7d6.turboimg.net/sp/73f50a334aa905d3fb1cd7ca315abb10/42079636-1486495257379988.png

 

Source: Symantec

While I strongly believe in the enterprise division, I see the need to separate myself from confirmation bias by overlooking the huge mountain to be surmounted as Symantec transitions its huge operating profit from consumer security to enterprise security. Essentially, I feel the urge to hedge this volatility by not hoping for outsized upsides in the short term.

I've had an informative discussion on this and I feel the need to revise my thesis.

 

As a result, I maintain my PT of $28, however with a hold rating above the PT due to unpredictable volatility that might ensue on the profitability side.

If you like my article and would like to stay up-to-date on the next one, you can click the "Follow" button next to my profile.

Disclosure: I/we have no positions in any stocks mentioned, and no plans to initiate any positions within the next 72 hours.

I wrote this article myself, and it expresses my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for it (other than from Seeking Alpha). I have no business relationship with any company whose stock is mentioned in this article.

 

https://seekingalpha.com/article/4043541-symantec-simple-explanation-decline-consumer-security-segment

You're just beating a dead horse . . :P There is not much money too be be made in the consumer market   were  they sell antmalware products at all .. If you dont offer a free product  you're  pretty much doomed and with people switching too windows 10  were has baked in antimalware every year  the demand for 3rd party programs will go down even more.  Only in the Enterprise market is there money too be made selling these products   and places like Bestbuy dont sell too the Enterprise market. Not many consumers  is interested in buying a key they are installing free versions and only windows computer geeks are interested  in sites that post the statics about these rentware Antimalware .

Things are not like they use too be back when I used Kaspersky free products were very poor  all we had was AVG and it didn't work good .. But it's been since like 2008 since Ive had any problems at all with malware no matter witch Antimalware I use  and Microsoft just posted statics last month that half of Windows 7 users are not even using any   Antimalware at all.

The only thing that could save the Antivirus today is if they could prevent 0days  and ransomware and this is were most vendors are lacking .. Virus has not been a big problem since the early 2000s  and it's not hard for and Antivirus to get signatures to make people immune too them once they are found. This is the reason the last 2  outbreaks of  ransomware packed with virus was short lived .. Back in the old days sometimes virus went on for years before they got them under control. Now it's just a matter of days before they get slowed down to a crawl .

If they cant stop 0days means most likely if someone was targeting you or if you are not careful  that you would be infected  . Only I use Antivirus as a extra layer of security because I dont really trust them to do there job and all of them have let  me down  before incl Kaspersky fail me once before on a 0day before  and it takes 1 0day too infect you.., but I got wise too that shit and  stop just depending  on them alone  and I never had no more problems since in a lot of years.

 

People dont even be searching Google about antivirus like they use too  and vendors are hard up and mostly all you see in news is how Mobile and other non windows Desktop malware is on the rise  even though other OS only have a fraction of Malware Windows do. They cant even stop 0days on Windows much less stop it on Android , IOS .MAC OS or Linux  it's all sales PR  and over blown with Tinfoil hat  wearing stories .

 

Ive not used Symantec since like back in 2002 or something and then i didn't buy it i found a keygen  and used it only reason I tired it was because AVG  Free was not really working back then  and Symantec had false positives  and made you're PC slow even way back then.  Webroot  antimalware i only tested it very little I never liked it why should i trust antimalware from a company that started out as a Windows cleaner ( Webroot Windows Washer) ?

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8 hours ago, knowledge said:

f i was Kaspersky  i say just have Kaspersky  for russia  and let everyone  use bs programs like Symantec, Webroot  with the backdoors

Did you read the news today? The USA Government put a full ban on Kapersky  in federal agencies and the US government  could care less about there own backdoors  there already know these are in place  they put them there  there only worried  about backdoors that  they didn't  create .

 

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U.S. bans use of Kaspersky software in federal agencies amid concerns of Russian espionage



The U.S. government on Wednesday banned the use of a Russian brand of security software by federal agencies and gave them three months to remove the software amid concerns the company has ties to state-sponsored cyberespionage activities, according to U.S. officials.

Acting Homeland Security secretary Elaine Duke ordered that Kaspersky Lab software be barred from federal civilian government networks, giving agencies a timeline to get rid of it, according to several officials familiar with the plan who were not authorized to speak publicly about it. Duke ordered the scrub on the grounds that the company has connections to the Russian government and its software poses a security risk.

“The Department is concerned about the ties between certain Kaspersky officials and Russian intelligence and other government agencies, and requirements under Russian law that allow Russian intelligence agencies to request or compel assistance from Kaspersky and to intercept communications transiting Russian networks,” the department said in a statement. “The risk that the Russian government, whether acting on its own or in collaboration with Kaspersky, could capitalize on access provided by Kaspersky products to compromise federal information and information systems directly implicates U.S. national security.”

The directive comes months after the federal General Services Administration, the agency in charge of government purchasing, removed Kaspersky from its list of approved vendors. In doing so, the GSA suggested a vulnerability exists in Kaspersky that could give the Kremlin backdoor access to the systems the company protects.

In a statement to The Washington Post on Wednesday, the company said: “Kaspersky Lab doesn’t have inappropriate ties with any government, which is why no credible evidence has been presented publicly by anyone or any organization to back up the false allegations made against the company. The only conclusion seems to be that Kaspersky Lab, a private company, is caught in the middle of a geopolitical fight, and it’s being treated unfairly even though the company has never helped, nor will help, any government in the world with its cyberespionage or offensive cyber efforts.”

“Kaspersky Lab has always acknowledged that it provides appropriate products and services to governments around the world to protect those organizations from cyberthreats, but it does not have unethical ties or affiliations with any government, including Russia,” the firm said.

The directive comes in the wake of an unprecedented Russian operation to interfere in the U.S. presidential election that saw Russian spy services hack the networks of the Democratic National Committee and other political organizations and release damaging information.

 

At least a half-dozen federal agencies run Kaspersky on their networks, the U.S. officials said, although there may be other networks where an agency’s chief information security officer — the official ultimately responsible for systems security — might not be aware it is being used.

The order applies only to civilian government networks, not the military’s. But the Defense Department, which includes the National Security Agency, does not generally use Kaspersky software, officials said.

 

The U.S. intelligence community has long assessed that Kaspersky has ties to the Russian government, according to officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations. The company’s founder, Eugene Kaspersky, graduated from a KGB-supported cryptography school and had worked in Russian military intelligence.

 

In recent months concern has mounted inside the government about the potential for Kaspersky software to be used to gather information for the Russian secret services, officials said.

 

Richard Ledgett, former NSA deputy director, hailed the move. Speaking Wednesday on the sidelines of the Billington CyberSecurity Summit in Washington, he noted that Kaspersky, like other Russian companies, is “bound to comply with the directive of Russian state security services, by law, to share with them information from their servers.”

 

Concerns about Kaspersky software had been brewing for years, according to one former official who told The Post that some congressional staffers were warned by federal law enforcement officials as early as November 2015 not to meet with employees from Kaspersky, over concerns about electronic surveillance.

 

When the GSA announced its July decision, it underscored that its mission was to “ensure the integrity and security of U.S. government systems and networks” and that Kaspersky was delisted “after review and careful consideration.” The action removed the company from the list of products approved for purchase on federal systems and at discounted prices for state governments.

The directive will also put pressure on state and local governments that use Kaspersky’s products. Many had been left to speculate about the risks of sticking with the company or abandoning taxpayer-funded contracts, sometimes at great cost. In July, The Post found several state or local agencies that used Kaspersky’s anti-virus or security software had purchased or supported the software within the past two years.

 

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/us-to-ban-use-of-kaspersky-software-in-federal-agencies-amid-concerns-of-russian-espionage/2017/09/13/36b717d0-989e-11e7-82e4-f1076f6d6152_story.html?utm_term=.b23a91cf24fd

 

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knowledge    12,598
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it never stop with them  and Kaspersky 

 

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Any kind of bad news has a bad impact on sales in the USA .. It causes problems  too a already dying  industry that being took over by the baked in Microsoft monopoly called Windows Defender  whats so sad about it  most people dont care even if they dont  like how Kaspersky is being done, many just use Windows Defender  based on compatibility  problems Microsoft  had with it in Windows 10 in the past with KIS  and people have got use too using Windows Defender for 2 years it's hard too get them too switch too something else unless  a lot of people got infected using Windows Defender this wont change.

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the funny thing is this maybe its putins daughters are the super hackers  and are helping him  to hack the world :tease:

 

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What's funny is the USA hire Russian Hackers too hack Microsoft , Apple and Google and the Google sees every thing even when you sign in over at YouTube if you chat over there the US government is watching you. Sooner are latter the USA is going get tired of Hackers and trolls and start blocking of IP ranges if something happens bad enough too get the American people on there side. China already does it  and it would be very easy for the USA  to shut it's internet off from the rest of the WWW at a price  of ruining the internet .

 

We can stop hacking and trolls, but it would ruin the internet

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg23531383-300-we-can-stop-hacking-and-trolls-but-it-would-ruin-the-internet/

the Government already knows how too stop it just remember the government is allowing it too happen.. sooner or latter they will deem it necessary to to stop it and put laws on the internet like China has in place. Once you cant get  on sites from the USA  anymore  because  hackers keep robbing it  and  and stealing you can thank  hackers and trolls for it . As soon  as something happens on the internet  that gets lots of people killed that will the beginning of the end of the WWW. The internet existed  long before the WWW  did and the USA  dont have use the WWW if the Government  dont want too they can write there own program for it.

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Kaspersky Lab has laughed off attempts to have its wares banned from US government computers by saying it hardly sold to the Feds anyway.

“Given that U.S. government sales have not been a significant part of the company’s activity in North America, Kaspersky Lab is exploring opportunities to better optimize the Washington D.C. office responsible for threat intelligence offerings to U.S. government entities,” the company says in a statement.

The statement goes on to say that “North America remains a strategic market for Kaspersky Lab”. So strategic, in fact, that it plans to open offices in Los Angeles, Chicago and Toronto Canada during 2018.
 

“Expanding the company’s presence in the region will better enable Kaspersky Lab to provide its customers with the best cybersecurity solutions and services,” the statement said.
 

Company founder Eugene Kaspersky's Tweeted take on the topic is below.
 

 

 

Vendors have survived this sort of thing before: Huawei remains forbidden from selling to the US and Australian governments, but its consumer handset business is doing very well in both markets and its enterprise business is a contender in many industries.

Source: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/09/13/kaspersky_shrugs_off_us_ban/

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MR. Kaspersky will be soon lucky too even get a visa to even visit the USA .. When the owner of  Elcomsoft visit Black Hat the Feds interrogated him and question him they may be laughing now but they want be laughing by the time its over.  If you work for Kaspersky  in the USA  always Feds  are watching everything you do I would not want  a job there .

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