vissha Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 What Does “Only Supported On Windows 10” Mean For Chips? Microsoft announced that next gen chips would only be supported by Windows 10. But what does that actually mean? Whose idea was it to limit support for future generations of Intel and AMD chips to Windows 10? We don't know the answer to that, but the finger seems to point to Microsoft. Microsoft revealed in January of this year that the next generation of silicon chips would only by supported by Windows 10, the company's new operating system. The only exception to the rule was Intel's Skylake chip, which the company planned to support for a selection of (mostly business) devices. Microsoft changed its course on Skylake support on Windows 7 and Windows 8 later on, but remained firm in regards to next gen processor support. The change affects consumers and businesses alike. Consumers are limited by it, as they no longer have the choice to build a Windows PC running Windows 7 or 8.1 using one of the newer chips. Businesses are even more affected by it than consumers, as most would not want to run unsupported hardware on previous versions of Windows. Actually, it is unclear right now what would happen if one would try to run a Windows 7 or 8.1 computer with one of the new chips. The reason for this is simple: availability. The chips are not available yet which means that no one tried to install previous versions of Windows on a computer running these new chips. Microsoft failed to reveal what would happen if users would try to run new unsupported chips on old versions of Windows. Guesses range from "it would work" to "it would likely crash" or "not even install". Third-party drivers could be created to fill the gap, but that would take time and it would only benefit home users but not businesses, as they are unlikely to run third-party drivers that are not official and not supported. We will know more once AMD and Intel release their first Zen and Kaby Lake chips, but before then, it is unknown territory. Did Microsoft push the chip manufacturers into a corner? We don't know that either. What we know is that AMD and Intel are supporting Microsoft's strategy. It makes little sense from a business perspective for chip manufacturers to limit their customer base artificially though. Additionally, both Intel and AMD would have to come up with the idea on their own, and approach Microsoft about it independently, which seems unlikely as well. Microsoft's strategy could drive some users and even businesses towards Linux, especially if they have no intention of installing Windows 10 any time soon or at all on their devices. Now You: What is your take on this? Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycat19 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 I think Linux runs fine on any chip so Microsoft can take a flying f*ck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylence Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 You can't move to the future unilaterally, others should support too and in this case hardware manufacturers have seen the benefit for this and made the choice. multiple times in this article says nothing is known yet, so this article is BS now, because it's only based on one person's imaginations and not on facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 6 hours ago, straycat19 said: I think Linux runs fine on any chip so Microsoft can take a flying f*ck. it dont effect Linux at all they done added support for the latest AMD and Intel , but AMD dont have display drivers for any old chips since AMD killed catalyst on Linux .. Maybe some business will switch to Linux but most home users want . Kaby Lake will have USB 3.1., better 4K video support and and 3D graphics. It will add native HDCP 2.2 support along with full fixed function H.264, HEVC Main10/10-bit and VP9 8-bit video decoding and decoding..VP9 10-bit encode is not supported. You will Need to have DX 12 witch Linux dont have to benefit from most of this . It makes sense not to support it in Windows 7 and 8.1 since they only have DX 11 witch dont have any native support hw alteration for these video codecs expect for H264 . . Kaby Lake with Windows 10 will be a treat for people like me who like to watch Videos , But by the time I buy again something even better than Kaby Lake will be out.. What do business need with this kind of Video support ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haxzion Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It means that Microsoft FAILED to force their crapOS to consumers and they are looking for some other way to do it. When Win 8 got released MS lost a lot of money cause many pc manufacturers started selling systems without OS, so they are obviously trying to avoid it from happening again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikie Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Read somewhere Microsoft changed their plans... and Kaby will run on other than just win10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardecl Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Why would any hardware manufacturer partake in Microsoft's forced upgrade cycle? Especially someone like AMD who has been burnt by MS in the past, makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven36 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 2 hours ago, mikie said: Read somewhere Microsoft changed their plans... and Kaby will run on other than just win10. You read wrong Only they changed it for Skylake to get support tell Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 runs out of updates . They did not change it for Kabylake or ZEN Full Article from Microsoft https://blogs.windows.com/business/2016/08/11/updates-to-silicon-support-policy-for-windows/ They are going to stop selling Windows 7 and 8.1 October 31, 2016. They sold Windows 7 two more years than they planed too because of Windows 8 being a failure They had planed to stop selling it October of 2014 .Windows 7 users just got lucky was all that everyone hated windows 8.. http://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-sets-end-of-sales-date-for-windows-7-pcs/ Microsoft is not going too support updates on software they no longer sell for chips made for new PCs . AMD drooped Support on XP a year before it ran out of updates http://hothardware.com/news/amd-drops-windows-xp-support-with-latest-graphics-driver-update Now they have drooped support for many cards with Windows 7 , 8 and 10 you have use outdated drivers and on Linux for many cards they dont have them at all . These hardware venders works with Microsoft . DX 12 ,Mesa Vulkan etc is all they going to soupport the good thing about Intel though they have good open source drivers for Linux and AMD dont yet only they have them for new hardware . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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