France makes it illegal for tech firms to require employees attend work emails after 6pm

[anuseems]

If there weren't many reasons to admire the French lifestyle already, here is another one: they don't have to worry about responding official calls, texts, and emails after office hours. The French government has now made it illegal to work after 6pm, according to a Guardian report.

Last week, employer groups and worker unions from the country's tech and consultancy sectors signed a new, legally binding labour agreement that will require staff to switch off their phones after 6pm.

Out of the country's total workforce of about 40 million, the agreement currently affects only 1 million workers, including those working in the French arms of Google, Facebook, Deloitte and PwC. But those who favor the law say that the model can be extended to other sectors as well.

Apart from making it illegal for employers to force their workers to work after 6pm, the new law also says that employees should resist the temptation of looking at work-related material once the clock ticks off.

A study from the Center for Creative Leadership suggests that the workers with smartphones communicated with their office 72 hours per week on average.

http://www.theguardian.com/money/shortcuts/2014/apr/09/french-6pm-labour-agreement-work-emails-out-of-office

Edited April 13, 2014 by anuseems

[AlexCross]

This should already exist in any country.

[ffi]

The stupid french communists, the government should stay out, the relation between an employer and and employee is the business of the employer and the employee and no one else

Edited April 14, 2014 by ffi

[dee.pee]

Nothing to do with this .... I'm finishing to work at 5PM :lol:

[flitox]

FFI, stop your paranoia and start to learn how to read:

"Apart from making it illegal for employers to force their workers to work after 6pm, the new law also says that employees should resist the temptation of looking at work-related material once the clock ticks off."

if you are a poor soul with no life beside your job and are happy to work a few more hours for free, nobody will complain!

[AlexCross]

In some parts of the world, if you don't work overtime hours, you'll get fired or even don't get your full pay check. So I hope more countries will fallow this example.

Edited April 15, 2014 by AlexCross

[ffi]

FFI, stop your paranoia and start to learn how to read:

"Apart from making it illegal for employers to force their workers to work after 6pm, the new law also says that employees should resist the temptation of looking at work-related material once the clock ticks off."

if you are a poor soul with no life beside your job and are happy to work a few more hours for free, nobody will complain!

If you don't like your job just get a better one. The government has no rights to interfere between an employer and employee

[dMog]

FFI, stop your paranoia and start to learn how to read:

"Apart from making it illegal for employers to force their workers to work after 6pm, the new law also says that employees should resist the temptation of looking at work-related material once the clock ticks off."

if you are a poor soul with no life beside your job and are happy to work a few more hours for free, nobody will complain!

If you don't like your job just get a better one. The government has no rights to interfere between an employer and employee

actually,,,that all depends what the employer is doing to the employee doesn't it

[ffi]

actually,,,that all depends what the employer is doing to the employee doesn't it

No, if your job sucks, quit and get another one, sucky employers will soon find it hard to find good employees and go out of business. The government fundamentally has no right to interfer with contracts between consenting adults.

Edited April 19, 2014 by ffi

[flitox]

let's go say that to all people wiling to work but have been unemployed for years/month.

you will call them lazy cunts living off your back cuz they are unemployed but if you cant find a job that somewhat fit your liking moneywise/ work wise, how do you live???? from air & fresh water??

[ffi]

let's go say that to all people wiling to work but have been unemployed for years/month.

you will call them lazy cunts living off your back cuz they are unemployed but if you cant find a job that somewhat fit your liking moneywise/ work wise, how do you live???? from air & fresh water??

These people are not willing to work, they are just lazy, if they wanted to work they would have accepted a job below their standards

[dMog]

actually governments make labor laws to protect people...to say they have no right to do so is wrong...it was not that long ago that employers had the power of life and death over their employees...to make blanket statement that governments have no right to interfere is being a totally miscreant who is also out of touch with reality...good example...coal mines..it was not all long ago that there was no such thing as safety in these mines... mining companies actually paid thugs to kill their employees if thee was hint of them asking for concessions for safer working conditions... in other sectors police ran striking workers over with horses...and the press of the day said the workers were rioting and deserved what they got

[flitox]

but what can you do if all you get proposed is shitty low paid job???

you just said, if your job sucks, get another one. thats absolutly true but what if you're in a position where all the job you get offered is a sucky job???? you bend over or you say fuck off cunts?

[dMog]

you work to feed your family and look to improve your lot in life but still work...i know a few people her where i live who have never had a job in their life...and are always complaining that the world owes them a living and that they never get enough...that is totally wrong way to live one life

[flitox]

you work to feed your family and look to improve your lot in life but still work...i know a few people her where i live who have never had a job in their life...and are always complaining that the world owes them a living and that they never get enough...that is totally wrong way to live one life

the problem is not working, the problem is doing it for money & for people that don't care a single second about yourself.

[ffi]

actually governments make labor laws to protect people...to say they have no right to do so is wrong...it was not that long ago that employers had the power of life and death over their employees...to make blanket statement that governments have no right to interfere is being a totally miscreant who is also out of touch with reality...good example...coal mines..it was not all long ago that there was no such thing as safety in these mines... mining companies actually paid thugs to kill their employees if thee was hint of them asking for concessions for safer working conditions... in other sectors police ran striking workers over with horses...and the press of the day said the workers were rioting and deserved what they got

I don't take a job in a coal mine, it's as simple as that

[dMog]

actually governments make labor laws to protect people...to say they have no right to do so is wrong...it was not that long ago that employers had the power of life and death over their employees...to make blanket statement that governments have no right to interfere is being a totally miscreant who is also out of touch with reality...good example...coal mines..it was not all long ago that there was no such thing as safety in these mines... mining companies actually paid thugs to kill their employees if thee was hint of them asking for concessions for safer working conditions... in other sectors police ran striking workers over with horses...and the press of the day said the workers were rioting and deserved what they got

I don't take a job in a coal mine, it's as simple as that

you simply like to argue ...i bet on any given day you can actually argue both sides of an issue just to play someones mind...

[AlexCross]

Well, my opinion about it is that humans have rights, some businesses violate their employee's rights by having the upper hand, it's very common when the employees have to deal with working extra hours, forced to do 2 jobs for 1 pay check, because it's cheaper to pay 1 person for 2 jobs than 2 person, and let me give you an example of an Romanian actor that had his freedom of expression right and moral rights broken by the television company he is working. You can't give away these rights in a contract.

So yes, this law, in my opinion, should be the top priority in all the countries out there, and should be more rigid than this.

Edited April 20, 2014 by AlexCross

[flitox]

actually governments make labor laws to protect people...to say they have no right to do so is wrong...it was not that long ago that employers had the power of life and death over their employees...to make blanket statement that governments have no right to interfere is being a totally miscreant who is also out of touch with reality...good example...coal mines..it was not all long ago that there was no such thing as safety in these mines... mining companies actually paid thugs to kill their employees if thee was hint of them asking for concessions for safer working conditions... in other sectors police ran striking workers over with horses...and the press of the day said the workers were rioting and deserved what they got

I don't take a job in a coal mine, it's as simple as that

lol yea but let's gives the people that work in mines a way shorter time of work. let's say you work there for 15 yeard and then you can stop working. or if we are really in need of workforce, you give then a cool easy job for a few more years but they still go before the others.

let's give them the best condition of work too, we just have to built things efficiently.

if that easier for you to understand, just imagine a world of endless money, no budget restruction on anything, just imagine the thing we could do.

here with no money, we are just limited by what we can do with what we have.

[ffi]

you simply like to argue ...i bet on any given day you can actually argue both sides of an issue just to play someones mind...

No, I really believe governments have no rights to interfere in the private business between consenting adults

[speedy57]

you simply like to argue ...i bet on any given day you can actually argue both sides of an issue just to play someones mind...

No, I really believe governments have no rights to interfere in the private business between consenting adults

It is quite unrealistic it would simply say that employers have the right of life and death over you. -_-

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/dec/22/abu-dhabi-migrant-workers-conditions-shame-west

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12246979

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Edited April 21, 2014 by speedy57

[dcs18]

The Employers & Employees have already consented and are under a legal contract that is binding on the Employers to ensure that Employees are connected only during office hours - the gist of the article is reproduced below:--

Now employers' federations and unions have signed a new, legally binding labour agreement that will require employers to make sure staff "disconnect" outside of working hours.

[dMog]

you simply like to argue ...i bet on any given day you can actually argue both sides of an issue just to play someones mind...

No, I really believe governments have no rights to interfere in the private business between consenting adults

i just imagine the stuff you are up to in your life to make the claim the government has no right to make laws between consenting adults.. it is two completely different things...between consenting adults(even then there has to be laws to protect people from being exploited) or agreements to work ..you mean to tell me that i coerce someone to become prostitute or to rob cheat and kill i have the right to do so because it is a contract between consenting adults...same way with a job,,,if i convince by threat my employee 70 hours a week to work in life threatening conditions or hardly pay him or make someone do any other illegal or dangerous activity on my part i should be ok because the government has no right to interfere ...you are either naive 10 years old or a total fool my bet is you are all three

[flitox]

you simply like to argue ...i bet on any given day you can actually argue both sides of an issue just to play someones mind...

No, I really believe governments have no rights to interfere in the private business between consenting adults

FFI, any wise feedback on my idea?? a way better ideal to live for than our shitty european community, don't you think?