Software posting

[nIGHT]

Giving a LIKE to someone posting a software updates is rewarding that he is doing a good job and you liked what he shared.

But not all software posting are informative, some may not have pictures to show about the product.

May have little or too few description on it, but what I really want most is to know if the file is clean.

Can you please add a little information to each and every new software update posted with a scan result from virustotal?

It goes something like this.

Google Chrome 30.0.1599.14 Beta Medicine.

Virustotal Detection ratio: 0/46

Here is one good poster providing a very good technical details about the software.

Today Google “sees” everything. Most Google products like Google Desktop, Google Chrome, Google Picasa, Google Earth and Google Toolbar collect data about the usage, generate a unique ID and transfer them back to Google.

GoogleClean can prevent this and switches of those data transfers. It allows you to use all Google products without any headaches and without having to worry about the consequences. GoogleClean does not influence the functionality of Google products. It takes away the bad things and leaves you the good things.

http://sharewareonsale.com/s/free-abelssoft-googleclean-19-90-value-copy

Terms and Conditions

• This is a 1-user lifetime license, for home and business use
• No free updates
• You get free tech support
• Can be installed or re-installed after this offer is over

Technical Details

• Developed by Abelssoft
• Current version is v2013
• Download size is 19.3 MB
• Supports Windows XP, Vista, Windows 7, and Windows 8
• VirusTotal scan results: N/A

Look at the technical details! :D

Plus, it has all what I wanted to know about this software.

It has lots of pictures, description a link to the website, the software version, the file size, OS supports (32 & 64bit?) and a scan result!

I will give a like whenever I can to anyone posting like that! :P

If you agree with me on this please LIKE my post too!

Edited August 23, 2013 by nIGHT

[TuFaS]

Thanks 4 sharing!

[robo]

I like it

[ande]

There is already Guidelines and Templates topic, although it, at first, aim at Software Updates, it can/should be used, along with Forum Rules, as a guide for posting other software related topics, or posting in general.

No need to reinvent the wheel.

Peace.

[nIGHT]

Our Forum Rules along with its Guidelines and Templates makes it only as an option when someone (other than the poster himself) checks on it. Here it is.

This document is intended to clarify the usage of the "Software Updates" forum at nsane.forums and to give guidance to our members of the preferred format of any updates. This document will be updated. It is your responsibility to be 'up to date' with its content. These guidelines are in addition to and not instead of the Forum Rules.

• General Guidelines:
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  The following information is also preferred to be included in any update:
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• Other Information
  • If there's any kind of infection (malware) involved, please immediately contact the staff using the 'Report' button, and include aVirusTotal.com report if possible. This allows prompt action to be taken (when required);
  • If a posted item has already been posted or is "old news", please let the staff know via the 'Report' button and it will be dealt with accordingly;
  • When a link doesn't work (for you), please make a post in the topic explaining your issue;
  • Any questions should be directed to the site staff.

That (the guidelines and forum rules) never did state anything nor it has been a practice to always include a virustotal report. I know sometimes it returns false positive but the number of LIKES I get on the first post showed how others thought and prefer the same way as I want the software posting should be.

Virustotal scan report should be an essential information to be included in all new software medicine posting.

The suggestion promotes the idea to be always cautious before using it especially to new members who are naive to computer security.

Our sites' image will improve having this kind of security consideration. ;)

Thanks for posting here ande, and do not worry as I'm cool with corrections. But this suggestion implies that this is an essential (very important) information that must be included in every software posting by the software poster himself rather than as an option that would only be posted by some members other than the poster himself checks on the software.

Edited August 23, 2013 by nIGHT

[avmad]

I'm sorry to say I only cut and paste that info from the site. Used WinSnap for the pic. :ninja2:

What annoys me are just download links. No link to the softwares web page. I'm not going to d/l it if I can't even see what the program does.

[nIGHT]

@avmad I met a few here with those kind of posting too and I agree with you on that, but the rarest information included in software posting (virustotal scan report) happens to be the most relevant. ;)

[ande]

Why would you want to scan every software with online scanning engines, there is no need for that.

Well known, open source, digitally signed software needn't to be checked in that way, unless if their download is not from official source, and in that case HASH is enough to confirm integrity of data. Oh, not to forget waste of time, bandwidth and upload size limitations.

If you are going to online scan medicine they will almost always be identified as malicious - no use.

On the other hand I agree with you, posters should format their posts and topics in a way that is clear and easy to read, with just enough information so that one is not forced to google basic information, but you can not force that upon anyone, people will post as they want, the way they want, as long as they follow forum rules. :)

Peace.

[Alanon]

Well I see nothing wrong with copying the info from websites, I've done it myself. :dunno:

As long as it's the info is there, I don't need to go to the website. :D

Edited August 23, 2013 by Alanon

[nIGHT]

@ande I used to be a user of peerblock. It is an opensource too but then just one day their executable contained malware. Well, you can compile their source but you need to find and remove those nonsense references to the malware. Software made by a company can be trusted and should be skipped from scanning their executable. :rolleyes:

About the med, only those really did contain malware/trojan has a very high rate and for some really known source we can ignore the scan rate. :yes:

And, this is just only a suggestion, not a dictatorship, for a good software posting habit. :lmao:

Most importantly, I am not posting here with rage and would not incite others to protest with rage about this matter, but merely, I am asking for posters to consider the inclusion of this necessary information on their next posting. :clap: :yes: :love:

Edited August 23, 2013 by nIGHT

[emerglines]

Some people up here had internet limitation and slow internet connection either.

I'm with you 100% but still we need a solution to people who have internet problems.

[sirri]

Adding VT scan result is good suggest,nIGHT. ;)

I've already done within some of my post :D . If result scare you, I added some " pre-caution " to use medicine/KG within sandboxed.

Edited August 24, 2013 by sirri

[rudrax]

This is a good idea proposed by nIGHT and senior members follows them more or less except for the virustotal result in some cases. What I've to tell regarding this is - when someone download a medicine or repack of a shareware, there is always a chance of infection so the downloader (the person) always makes sure that his download is infection free before executing it or takes preventive measures like SD, RbRx, or sandbox. When you download something from its owner's site or owner recommended site, it's safe because they are well concerned about their reputation.

And the software updates should be posted as per a fixed blueprint given by the community as far as possible - the staff should be concerned about that and I know they are.

About the LIKE thing, this is like playing some game, the more you score the more it feels good. It's only upto the person regarding a post whether he is gonna like that or not. Don't ask for it because that way, it doesn't look good :)

Edited August 24, 2013 by rudrax

[nIGHT]

Adding VT scan result is good suggest,nIGHT. ;)

I've already done within some of my post :D . If result scare you, I added some " pre-caution " to use medicine/KG within sandboxed.

Thanks sirri for the feedback. Good idea too on the " pre-caution " to use medicine/KG within sandboxed. Also, when the source is known and trusted we should put a comment there that it's from that legendary brainiac. :thumbsup:

[nIGHT]

This is a good idea proposed by nIGHT and senior members follows them more or less except for the virustotal result in some cases. What I've to tell regarding this is - when someone download a medicine or repack of a shareware, there is always a chance of infection so the downloader (the person) always makes sure that his download is infection free before executing it or takes preventive measures like SD, RbRx, or sandbox. When you download something from its owner's site or owner recommended site, it's safe because they are well concerned about their reputation.

And the software updates should be posted as per a fixed blueprint given by the community as far as possible - the staff should be concerned about that and I know they are.

The only points for this suggestion are to be cautious about sharing here and promote computer security. This will benefit, especially you, those who has very slow and limited bandwidth. For others, who got an adequate speed on connection they can always check it like I always did. But having each user/member to have it checked against VT is a waste in comparison to having a poster and a single reputable member to verify it. Of course, just like peerblock, one day a malicious poster would post a VT for a different file and spread the malware, most likely it will be a bitcoin miner :idea: , but this already be a known act to us now. :P And lastly, this promotes the posters reputation if he ever did share something worthwhile and informative. Some of you might have noticed in the past months that I LIKE a posts that gives a VT (I mostly didn't use those though), xenocoder and tezza practiced it a lot even before I became a member here, and I always give them an explicit appreciation for doing it so. But some just didn't practice it, not that I'm not grateful of what they share but I do really appreciate it if they do include it and make it a habit. :D

Edited August 24, 2013 by nIGHT

[speedy57]

Look at my posts, they'll stay like this i'll not add VT because the most are freeware and it's always the official link. ;)

If there are people who want to check for yourself: no problem.

[Alanon]

In my opinion, a like is much, much better than "Thank you for the update". This phrase clutters up the thread unnecessarily, and increases peoples' post count to +infinity, without any real contribution to the community. So the like button is very useful as a tool to acknowledge someone's work, be it advice, a direct and helpful post for a specific problem, or just something that you agree with very much, in such a way that you don't think you could have said it better yourself.

As for VT, I don't think that it's necessary for free-ware, known good tolls, etc. or fixes that come from members of this forum. But again, I seem to recall that those excellent up-daters of our community added VT links precisely for fixes that "come from the outside".

Bottom line - it's a nice thing to make the most informative update post possible, because it can save time for a member seeing the software for the first time, not just for people to know that their app has been updated. Then the member can read the first post, see the VT link that clears the fix, read a couple of useful comments below (that don't thank for the update), and decide to try it out because he read something good about the app from the people he trusts. IMHO, that's what we're all about.

[nIGHT]

In my opinion, a like is much, much better than "Thank you for the update". This phrase clutters up the thread unnecessarily, and increases peoples' post count to +infinity, without any real contribution to the community. So the like button is very useful as a tool to acknowledge someone's work, be it advice, a direct and helpful post for a specific problem, or just something that you agree with very much, in such a way that you don't think you could have said it better yourself.

As for VT, I don't think that it's necessary for free-ware, known good tolls, etc. or fixes that come from members of this forum. But again, I seem to recall that those excellent up-daters of our community added VT links precisely for fixes that "come from the outside".

Bottom line - it's a nice thing to make the most informative update post possible, because it can save time for a member seeing the software for the first time, not just for people to know that their app has been updated. Then the member can read the first post, see the VT link that clears the fix, read a couple of useful comments below (that don't thank for the update), and decide to try it out because he read something good about the app from the people he trusts. IMHO, that's what we're all about.

Very well said Alanon! I'm on the process to look up on my previous post about the use of LIKE here and you said it better than I could have ever thought best. And, I do agree with you especially about using the LIKE as a better alternative to a 'THANK YOU' only post or 'YOU EXPRESSED WHAT I WANT TO SAY' post. Those kind of post just add up to the length of the thread and making it hard to find quality post there. Here is one explicit example of that. tehehehe! :tehe:

Those that I marked "Liked" above, all I can say is you said it better than what I was thinking. ;)

MDL did explicitly asked for the LIKE and encouraged the promotion and use of it rather than the 'THANK YOU' only post. :P

And, regarding 'scoring' on the LIKE, I think the LIKE is synonymous to the VIP status here. Some gained VIP status just spamming the forum with the 'THANK YOU' only post. :P

PS: I'm searching my post about how I see that VIP status. I will update this post only to add that link. You could see that I really don't care about the LIKE as a scoring thing but merely I use it here as a measure that others share the same thought as I have and can LIKE or UNLIKE my suggestion as you can't unvote in the poll after having some deep thought. :P

Update:

Here is my previous post about how I feel about the VIP status. It is now locked and cannot quote directly from it. But I will re-quote and post the link for veracity. Here is the link to that post and I re-quote it here.

In my pov, forget about having titles, just being a part of this community is already a privilage for me.

I have access to safer softwares, hehe!

Plus, when they reply back at you, you will surely feels like a vip too. hehe!

These guys are cool! :D

Edited August 24, 2013 by nIGHT

[nIGHT]

Look at my posts, they'll stay like this i'll not add VT because the most are freeware and it's always the official link. ;)

If there are people who want to check for yourself: no problem.

No problem with freeware/software but with the Med/KG speedy57, this is only a suggestion that I wish you consider.

I will bear no hate, sour taste or ill will upon you and your posts if you do not comply with my request.

This is a free world with free will and "I am on the side of requesting/asking/BEGGING a more extended favor/effort to you",

I humbly just asked for consideration. :D

Popular freeware may be in favor to not be included with VT info, just as alanon said in his post, but first time posting of such unknown freeware to the community should be encourage to have a VT. If it is not too much to ask for it to have one and may not take too much time for the poster. The choice is still left on the prejudice of the poster to decide on this matter and not on me or anyone else. ;)

I just want to convey a simple message to the posters and would not want to impose/insist on something not done on free will and consideration.

Again, "I am on the side of requesting/asking/BEGGING a more extended favor/effort to you" and I humbly knows my position on that. The power to consider and deny my request is on your hands not mine but I already 'THANK YOU' for trying to look at this suggestion.It's just a suggestion anyway. No animals, fish, insect, humans, aliens, angels and demons were hurt in our discussion in this thread. Kudos! ;)

Edited August 24, 2013 by nIGHT

[manu]

babelpatcher trial reset for IDM (frontpaged) : more than 30/45 positive (old data)

virustotal can only be indicative, application of brain is must

and i said many times if "anyone" is so scared better buy the software and support developer

[nIGHT]

@manu I already made a point in my previous post here my answer to that matter. Some really reliable source can be ignored.

@ande I used to be a user of peerblock. It is an opensource too but then just one day their executable contained malware. Well, you can compile their source but you need to find and remove those nonsense references to the malware. Software made by a company can be trusted and should be skipped from scanning their executable. :rolleyes:

About the med, only those really did contain malware/trojan has a very high rate and for some really known source we can ignore the scan rate. :yes:

And, this is just only a suggestion, not a dictatorship, for a good software posting habit. :lmao:

Most importantly, I am not posting here with rage and would not incite others to protest with rage about this matter, but merely, I am asking for posters to consider the inclusion of this necessary information on their next posting. :clap: :yes: :love:

[manu]

@manu I already made a point in my previous post here my answer to that matter. Some really reliable source can be ignored.

how to know a source is reliable?

even a keygen by core can be infected because of the virus in uploader's pc

and i am just making a point here, no rage at all

just install any good antivirus with real time protection, that will do the job :)

Edited August 24, 2013 by manu

[nIGHT]

@manu Yup, we're just having a peaceful discussion here and you make a very good point especially on that poster's pc getting infected. I'm having a hard time answering (not countering) your points. ;)

how to know a source is reliable?

even a keygen by core can be infected because of the virus in uploader's pc

About this, I look up to guys like you, novermber_ra1n, xenocoder, tezza, mara, manu, etc (too many to mention all of you guys, top choices only hehehe!) as the top good guys here. You're stuff are clean, you're direct to the point and you give no around-the-world-tour bullsh1ts talk. You share what you can and gave advice that really leads you to the right direction that will not compromise your pc security. And, those kinds of posts you guys made make you trustworthy enough. ;)

Here's one post of yours that I know you can be trusted and reliable. Though, there could be a chance your pc might get infected due to testing it in behalf for our sake but we know it is unintentional. :D

new medicine (to be used with retail setup)

http://ge.tt/9Fn75ae/v/0

not tested

:oops: reportedly fake :sorry:

source :

http://wantivirus7.blogspot.in/2013/04/cyberlink-powerdvd-ultra-130272057.html

Here is a simple discussion that we do have people we always count in and trust. We all know xenocoder is using an encryption software for his meds that has a signature stamp on it. xenocoder made that clear in a discussion but i can't find those posts yet.

@ xenocoder

If they use the download managers with your fix it too will show as virus but we know it isnt. People need to learn to read first before clicking and not accuse me of posting a virus.

I know that your stuff is clean and im sorry for these guys about the wrong reports etc..

and here's another one

i dont trust its installation so i stop the process :)

10x for the info

hi demon, in what you dont trust its istallation buddy? Thanks

its look fishy , if i was u , i was install it in VM and see what it installed , its look like all this spyware installation who add "other" things to the system except the software :D

Very interesting opinion - thank you for him! ;)

And the last point

just install any good antivirus with real time protection, that will do the job :)

Good advice. But even most AVs reports a lot of false positives. Sometimes VT scans and comments can be useful too.

Especially when those comments comes from you guys that I trust. ;)

@everyone I really appreciate the time you spent to look at this suggestion and did comment on it. Some of you may not favor my suggestion but its okay with me. After all, this is only a suggestion. I will not be hurt if you don't like this idea and may comment against it. It may only shows that my idea/suggestion is not that good enough and I understand the reason you declined my request. We may agree to each other or agree to disagree with each others points but we are still in good terms. :wub: The power of having a friendly and peaceful discussion. :hug: If you have more points and comments please feel free to post it. :)

Edited August 24, 2013 by nIGHT

[nIGHT]

Here is a post of a new member made after a day I started this topic . He did not know we have a Guidelines and Templates suggesting how we should present our shares. And look at how others react to his post.

Download Setup :

http://www.anonymz.com/?http://software-files-a.cnet.com/s/software/13/18/53/11/audsetup.exe?lop=link&ptype=3001&ontid=2094&siteId=4&edId=3&spi=96664201a2c0d63c6d26efbb67137ec2&pid=13185311&psid=75914146&token=1377381044_1cc22b0cb790c35d1267b0235612c747&fileName=audsetup.exe

Medicine 1.x : By Me

http://www.anonymz.com/?https://anonfiles.com/file/a1eef1152bdd426a34a07794700ae3c6

That's All !! :)

:wtf:

:wtf: is this ?

Btw. :welcome: to nsane :D

AlienForce1 rather the one did get my respect and LIKE for his very complete and informative post.

But anyway, this suggestion may become popular and a major preference for most of our members but the choice is still at the hands of the poster. This is just a request to extend your effort more of providing us with more additional info (VT scan result).

Edited August 24, 2013 by nIGHT

[Avitar]

What annoys me are just download links. No link to the softwares web page. I'm not going to d/l it if I can't even see what the program does.

What annoys me even more is when posters update software and provide no Medicine with it. Users are then left searching the comments or unsafe places on the internet. They deny a user with medicine the right to make the update. Do you agree that medicine (if needed) should be a necessity when posting?